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Battlefront II, The Last Jedi and Rey's parents (WARNING! SPOILERS)

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Boss Vos, Nov 16, 2017.

  1. Julius Fett

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    I mean, considering that it takes two to have a child, as silly as it might sound, that’s totally still possible (however unlikely).

    Luke could have procreated with someone of a darker complexion, by all means, to have Finn. On the other hand, we know exactly how both Iden and Del look.
    We already have the pastebin with the dumped dialogue from the upcoming chapter involving Zay anyway, so what will it take for it to be “confirmed” in your eyes?

    The DLC is released a mere two days before the mass release of the film on the 15th: do you really think that Rey is going to be revealed to be called Zay, who wasn’t left on Jakku all of these years but was intermittently picked up by her mother (who she shares few similarities with in terms of appearance) Iden would be revealed in a video game two days before the film is officially released in its most major territory, the USA?
     
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    Really?

    [​IMG]

    Just one example. Yeah, look at their eyes.
     
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    What's so different between Del and Rey?

    I don't know what a pastebin is. I'm simply saying the story remains possible until I see otherwise upon release. Zay might even be Rey's sister? Or BF won't reveal it but just hint further at it.
     
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    I was actually about to mention that, though it’s worth mentioning that we got the animated version first, so a much fairer comparison would be to have Saw in TCW compared with his Rebels appearance.

    There are many reasons why they might have not changed Whitaker’s appearance (forgetfulness, his “droopy eye”, etc.) but the character is clearly still blue-eyes in Rebels.

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    Regardless, I think that LFL would take much more care regarding Rey, considering that she is the protagonist of the ST.
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    Honestly, not too much. British, fair skinned, etc. But considering that Del has his child with Iden, I think it’s just as, if not more, important to consider her features being passed on to her daughter.
    Pastebin is a website where data is generally dumped for further examination; for instance, this is the pastebin for the dialogue/text found in the campaign of Battlefront II.

    Upon release of TLJ, or the next chapter of BFII’s campaign?

    Quick searches for “sister”, “sibling”, “twin”, etc. didn’t turn up anything, but conversations regarding Zay has her refer to Iden as “mom” and, considering that she’s referring to someone meeting Luke Skywalker, Del as “dad”.

    I don’t think there’s much, if anything, going for it, if I’m honest. The thought of Zay having a sister/Iden and Del having a daughter go missing/is abandoned on Jakku that isn’t mentioned at all in the BFII campaign seems a lot like the problem many of us have with Rey being a Solo, considering her interactions with Han and Leia throughout the film and a missing/abandoned child not being mentioned.
     
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    Rey can't be the daughter of Iden as Daisy found out who Rey's parents are 2 years ago, before BF2 was even conceptualised.
     
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    You think you make a video game in 3 months ? Of course, it was planned, this is called a business plan.

    They added the compass 3 months ago ? They worked with the storygroup for this campaign and it is canon.
     
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    No, but the campaign for BF2 wasn't even decided until TFA was in cinemas and the script for TLJ was being written during TFA's filming.

    Besides, people are dying to see who Rey's parents are and I can imagine this happening in the cinema:

    Film: "Rey, your parents are...(drumroll please) "Iden Versio and Dash!"
    Audience: WHO?????????
     
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    It's because you are waiting for irrelevant plot things. There has been exactly 0 teasing from Disney about Rey's parents about ep VIII.

    Just tell me one sentence, one word in all the trailers and TV Spots which is speaking about Rey's origins ?

    Who's Dash ?

    The real answer you should make is : I don't like this outcome.
     
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    I can really see Rey changing just two little letters of her name to protect herself. "Don't worry, it still rhymes."
     
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    I actually know a bit about the development of the Resurrection DLC and the daughter is mo-capped and performance capped by an actress I actually know quite well. It's definitely not Rey, but the ambiguous reference is intentional in that it attempts to spawn these type of theories. By the time of TFA Iden is 59 years old. The new DLC will be focusing on her adventures, but more prominently, those of her daughter.
     
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    That has absolutely zero bearing on how important this reveal is to fans and to the level of absurdity it would be to drop it into a video game that a ton of fans will not play. Lucasfilm is smarter than that.

    I'll take spoilers right to my inbox.
     
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    Unless they are confident enough on their story that this matter won't be a thing after ep VIII and people will focus on another thing.
     
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    In the past, characters have adopted names completely different to their real ones in order to protect their identity:

    Name: Queen Amidala
    Adopted: Padme (It wasn't revealed until later that Padme is actually her real name and she used it to disguise the fact that royalty was going undercover.)

    Name: Sheev Palpatine
    Adopted: Darth Sidious

    Name: Count Dooku
    Adopted: Darth Tyranus

    Name: Anakin Skywalker
    Adopted: Darth Vader

    Name: Obi-Wan Kenobi
    Adopted: Ben Kenobi (Luke thought Ben might be a relative of Obi-Wan.)

    Name: Ben Solo
    Adopted: Kylo Ren
     
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    I have noticed this going around and truthfully I'm skeptical. Before, I go into why I think this isn't the case, allow me to take a step back to the SWs movies. There is a reason why the SWs films have gained success. Within the saga, there was a simple, well-defined story. One that anyone, whether it be a child or adult could follow.

    And one that didn't require any supplementary materials. Now, why do I mention this? Whoever Rey's parents are, the explanation needs to be simple. It needs to fit the narrative of the ST and in turn be accessible to people who may only watch the movies. Which leads to my point on Iden and Del. I doubt LF would do this because simply put, trying to explain iden and Del would be hard.

    Not everyone will have played Battlefront 2 and really even if the movie could explain it; that exposition could be difficult to implement and in turn could be tedious. Hence, why I don't believe that Rey's folks are going to be anyone who is outside the movies. It would be too much of a challenge to explain to casual audiences.

    And really, will need to be one that is simple, and well-defined within the context of the narrative. Such as, Skywalker, Kenobi, Palpatine etc. or some kind of original individual.
     
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    Honestly, if it weren't for the pastebin and the other knowledge dropped in this thread, I'd be 100% in on the theory.

    While I was playing the final mission of the campaign earlier I was like... wait... what... who... huh? I had seen headlines here or there about, "Does Battlefront II reveal who Rey's parents are" and I thought it was just run of the mill clickbait, but after playing the campaign I was like, "Hold on they might've just done something here".

    They did a great job of connecting everything to get people talking. Del and Iden first kiss on Jakku, Del is helped by Luke Skywalker, comes across the map to Luke Skywalker which he gives to Lor San Tekka... and of course the timeline fit.

    The Iden/Janina being Indian thing really never concerned me. I have a friend who's of Indian descent on his mother's side and white/european on his father's side and I had absolutely no idea he was Indian for the longest time. The first time I met his mom I thought she was his stepmother. Obviously that's not going to be the case for every single person but it is possible.

    But knowing what we do with the DLC that's coming, I think we can put this theory out to the pasture.

    OR we we can speculate that Zay and Rey rhyme and maybe when Rey was dropped of on Jakku as a little girl she had a speech impediment that made her pronounce the "Z" sound as an "R" sound and as she grew older she forgot what her actual name was because everyone just kept calling her Rey. And as for the DLC with "Zay" and Iden? Just a dream sequence. Yeah, that's more fun, let's do that.
     
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    What a disgrace. Absolutely disgusting, just disgusting.
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    That guy said the daughter wasn't Rey, but it was supposed to make us think, what does that mean?
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    Bingo.

    This idea/situation is just tol aweful to be true.

    And besides, the most recent trailer (Kylo Failed you), made it clear secretely Luke knows who she is, he is just trying to see if she does.
     
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    I totally agree. Another reason as to why I do not think Iden and Del are Rey's parents is because Daisy Ridley herself said back in December of 2016 that she thought a lot was answered about Rey's origins in The Force Awakens.

    "I thought a lot was answered in ‘The Force Awakens’. Then after the screening I went for a drink with my agent and everyone, and we were chatting away and I realized that oh, in their minds it’s not answered at all!"

    Daisy's quote implies that there are clues to Rey's parentage in The Force Awakens. And seeing that Iden and Del did not exist to us at the time of The Force Awakens, it seems like a stretch that these two characters would end up being Rey's parents since Daisy has hinted that Rey's linage is more apparent in TFA then we think.
     
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    BFII would merely flesh out (and not even reveal) the story beyond what we need to know in the films. They could easily be explained in the films to be former Imperials who turned on the Empire but were tracked down and killed and had to abandon Rey/thought she was dead. This then explains the following....

    TFA indicated more than any other theory that her parents were dead and even DR said that it's not that important. That's what that quote suggests to me.

    So once again, if this "pastebin" (still don't get what that is!) wasn't a thing, this theory could be 100% legit.
     
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    Sorry, I tried to explain what it was earlier, but it became a small side note in a pretty large comment.

    Pastebin is a website where data can be pasted for others to view. Data miners (i.e. “hackers”, to put it loosely) search through the code of popular games and typically dump all of the text/dialogue found in the game on this site, making it easier for everyone to view (parts of security code still remain as its difficult to 100% clear up the code, so you end up with disjointed words and punctuation in a number of place.

    This is the pastebin for the dialogue/text found in the campaign of Battlefront II.

    Hope that helps :)
     
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    Again, we convenientally forget Kylo Ren KNOWS who she is
     
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