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SPOILER "Bloodline" by Claudia Gray (Discussion)

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Books & Comics + Legends' started by PrincessLeiaCB3, May 3, 2016.

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    I wondered if the story group gives them a kind of outline or basic description of the story, they go from there, the story group checks and changes or makes suggestions, they go back and redo those, I can only imagine that is the way it's done. There was something in Bloodlines that made me think, and it was minor, that the story group would have had her change, the way it was written in that part, if something else was true, for instance.
     
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    Haha! Well, it stands to reason that the audience is a little broader for SW books. It's a big galaxy, after all. :D
     
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    i'm pretty sure i recall an interview in which Gray talked about inventing Ransolm Casterfo, so i think there is a lot of latitude, with necessary oversight.
    the oversight is more to ensure that the writers don't create someone or a situation that will conflict with stuff already in place.
     
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    That would make sense. That way there is continuity between novels from different writers.
     
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    yes! there are a lot of things in Bloodline that are intentionally vague--which a writer would never have done if it wasn't purposeful to omit because of some later necessary reveal of information.
     
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    Agree. It's like an oncoming situation that I want to see in Rebels Season 3: Wedge Antilles is recruited by the Rebel Alliance. From the first "Aftermath" we learn he was recruited by Fulcrum, and back then I thought he might have met Ahsoka using her Fulcrum cover. However, it seems that after Season 2 finale, someone else would be using Fulcrum cover (we see something like that in the Rebels Season 3 trailer too). And tying a little bit with the latest Rogue One trailer, could that someone be Cassian Andor?

    Lol, I know, interesting to speculate about but it is just an example on how the writers have to leave some situations vague to avoid conflicts with the continuity.
     
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    It could still be Ahsoka as Fulcrum, and he shows up with our Rebels Heroes after the fact. There are a lot of the Rebels not involved with the ghost crew we never met.
     
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    True. Perhaps she made the initial contact with Wedge, then got to Malachor and someone different using the Fulcrum identity finished the recruitment.

    Having said that, I hope we still see her around. (#AhsokaLives all the way!!!)
     
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    I was thinking about this line from Bloodline (ch. 26): "[Leia] put one hand on his metal shoulder, reminded of how much she actually cared for the droid. 'You're the key to bringing this all down, Threepio....'"

    This is a question for those of you who are better versed in the non-movie canon than I am... Does Leia know Anakin made 3PO? If she doesn't, I wonder if that would change her feelings about him.
     
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    From the current canon so far I haven't read anything that indicates that yet. I guess the only people who knew that fact are already gone. Though it could be Obi-Wan or Anakin's Force-ghosts that could tell Luke about that fact.

    I know many fans disregard this fact as Lucas' fan-service during the prequels but, at the end of the day, it is what it is and it offers a interesting perspective on how little she cares about her Skywalker origin when she has had a droid actually created by her father.
     
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    As freaked out as she still is about Darth Vader being her father, I have to wonder if she'd be equally freaked out about his handiwork...or would she feel differently if she knew he had been created by Anakin rather than Darth Vader?
     
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    I guess she might feel differently since even it was created by Anakin, Threepio belonged to her grandmother Shmi and her mother Padme.

    The Legends had this novel called "Tatooine's Ghost" where she goes back to Tatooine and finds this electronic diary Shmi had kept from the time Anakin left with Qui-Gon to the time she was kidnapped by the sand people. Leia reads the diary, and she notices that the droid described by her grandmother on her diary reminds her of Threepio but she doesn't actually know for sure that Threepio was a family heirloom.
     
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    Interesting, thank you! (I knew you would know what books to reference. :D) I wonder if the new-canon Leia would have gone to those lengths to find out about her birth father. I'd say her birth mother, certainly. But not Anakin. Maybe in the new canon she thinks 3PO was Padme's?

    All this is interesting in light of your observation that 3PO is not in Life Debt...
     
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    Thanks!! For sure we know that she knows who is her biological mother from Bloodline. But I don't think - at least before Bloodline - that she actually wanted to find out who was her father and his story. :(

    What fascinates me is that at least on my side I didn't notice until recently of his absence. Maybe because "Aftermath:Life Debt" was not a story centered on the Skywalker. Alright, we got Leia on it, we got Han and Chewie but the focus was the Aftermath team on their mission first looking for Han at Leia's request and then helping Han to look for Chewie and to liberate Kashyyyk. Or maybe it is because in two books, we have grown fond of Wexley and Co. so we were actually interested on their adventures.
     
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    I'm still wondering if Bail took 3PO when he took Leia...? When did 3PO get his memory wiped?
     
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    I guess C3PO and R2 stayed with Captain Antilles, but Bail frequently used their help for the undercover Rebel missions - as we saw in Rebels Season 1. We know that Bail asked Captain Antilles to wipe C3PO's memory (from ROTS ending), but we do not know if this was done immediately after that.
     
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    Thanks, @PrincessLeiaCB3! *C-3PO voice*: Most helpful! :) Yes, I would think if 3PO was going to do any undercover work he would have needed his memory wipe to be completed before that, at the very least.
     
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    You're welcome! At certain point that is why the comic issue C3PO # 1 is sort of endearing since our whiny Goldenrod reflects over it:

    C-3PO 001-015.jpg C3PO memories.png
     
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    And that reminds me of this line from Bloodline: "Leia experienced the vaguely guilty sensation that surfaced every time she realized that droid personalities were more than programmed conversational quirks. A computer core could be lonely. C-3PO could take pity on it."
     
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    In Droid Tales, R2D2 puts a usb plug on C3PO so he "remembers" I remember the last lines of ROTS being about C3PO getting his mind wiped and Organa telling Captain Antilles to treat them well. (The droids)
     
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