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Boycott TFA merchandise until the trailer is released

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Travcon, Aug 28, 2015.

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Does the lack of a trailer have an impact on your willingness to buy the new TFA merchandise?

  1. Definitely

  2. Probably

  3. Maybe

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  1. Assy McGee

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    Totally correct. We're not entitled to demand anything off Disney and and Disney are not entitled to demand anything from us.

    So the notion of boycott is ridiculous. Boycotteing is the equivalent of a tantrum for not getting the chocolate your parents bought.
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    No you're not in a position to demand a producer anything. If you don't like the goods, you don't buy them. That's how it works. I don't go into a store and demand they sell me something at half off and if they don't, they're wrong. That's not how it works. If you don't like what they're selling, don't buy it.
     
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    More accurately its a tantrum for being asked to wait until after dinner to eat said chocolate. :) Because we will eventually get the chocolate. We are just not being given it immediately when we demand it.
     
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    I'm in a position to go to my synagogue dressed as a chicken and demand that they serve Hot Pockets before service, but I don't because I know it would be childish and make me look like a fool.
     
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  4. Travcon

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    Isn't a boycott the act of not buying something?
     
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    I agree... don't boycott the merchandise just because "you can't always get what you want... but you can try sometimes to get what you need". Star Wars takes PATIENCE and a lot of dedication. JJ, Kathleen, Lucasfilm, Bad Robot, and Disney understand how special Star Wars is and they know that these projects will take massive amounts of time. This is not going to be your standard movie flick where content is always spewing out half a year in advance. We need to just be patient and let the advertising campaign go on schedule as is. I will personally be getting a lot of TFA merch such as shirts, cups, etc. I really hope you will reconsider The Force Awakens from the standpoint of those producing this movie FOR EVERYONE. To them, this is not just a huge money grab, but more of a bigger scope of movie history. Disney will take good care of it, so quit worrying and enjoy what they give us on their schedule. Six years from now, you will enjoy the time table they have created for all their content.
     
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    Yes, and usually because you disagree with something. In this instance, the OP is complaining that Disney haven't shown him/her the free trailer which in their mind they are entitled to see!
     
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    A boycott is an organized form of protest or sanction against something through the act of not buying something in mass. Slightly different than just choosing to not buy something you aren't interested in because of displeasure with the product or how it was marketed.
     
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    Still, if another convention comes by and they promise something awesome and amazing and fail to deliver, in my opinion, isn't that them dangling the chocolate before us and yanking it away, again?

    I feel that last few "amazing" convention reveals have been far from it. The biggest thing that has happened was Celebration, which was like Thanksgiving feast. Since then, table scraps.
     
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    Not quite. I've never bought a Ferrari and have no plans to ever do so, but I'm not boycotting Ferrari.

    A boycott is punishing a company that you believe has wronged you by not buying their products and encouraging others to do the same.
     
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    Why not just boycott it all until we get to see the actual film then, Instead of the trailer?
     
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    The trailer is coming soon. No need to worry. We don't have to have a feast every two weeks with this content.
     
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    It's matter of taste. I thought comic-con's BTS reel was more successful than Celebration's trailer. Gave me more insight to the feel of the movie. And I never expected much out of D23, I don't' feel that they promised anything there. We built expectations up around the event, but they never said we'd get a trailer and then took it back.

    Would I like more? Absolutely. But I don't feel hurt or betrayed that we haven't seen more. As a poster above alluded to. Next year at this time when we've all seen the movie countless times, no one will care or remember the release schedule of the trailers that preceeded the film.
     
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    I am not demanding they show me a free trailer on its own. I am saying in order for me to see that the value of the products they are attempting to sell me in stores truly has the value I want for the money they are asking I need more information. So far we have some very short albeit good clips from 2 teaser and some photos. Have we heard any real dialogue? Have we experienced any real delivery of lines or official idea of the plot within more than a quick cut?

    From what I have seen thus far I am not 100% sold. And last time I checked the food mom and dad provided was paid for by them and provided to me for free. As a kid I have no means to exchange anything of value and I am in need for my survival on them so yes eating what the provide without conditions is not just the right and polite thing to do but also in my best interest. So the tantrum-food analogy is patently false. I do not need anything from Disney or Lucasfilm and I do not expect them to provide anything for free unless now I need to pay them for marketing stuff to me.
     
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    Weren't there reports of "Don't miss D23. You'll want to be there" and the like? Probably not official sources, but still.

    The BTS reel rubbed me the wrong way. It felt like patting themselves on the back for a film we haven't even seen yet.

    I've watched the two teasers hundreds of times. The BTS reel, maybe five. Maybe. I just feel they haven't earned that reel yet. Only the movie will convince me otherwise.

    Still, I have hope. There has been plenty of amazing content without Lucas over the years.

    Hope this is the same.
     
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    Look dude, you totally have the right to do what you're doing, just like the rest of us have the right to think it's childish. It's not really worth the amount of argument that any of us have put into this thread.

    I'm just willing to bet that you'd be a bit embarrassed to go out into the real world and explain to an average, non-geeky person that you're boycotting toys from a movie that comes out in four months because the creators have only given you two teaser trailers, several short videos, several magazine articles, three major convention presentations, and a behind-the-scenes reel.
     
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    Honestly, I'm just happy that there is another Star Wars film(s) coming, and that I am still around to see at least one of them. Just a few short years ago, neither of these things seemed possible.

    As for a boycott, I'm not inclined to do so, and it's actually too late for me anyway, as I've already purchased two 1/72 Scale Resistance X-Wing resin model kits, and 6 3D printed 1/270 scale models of the same, which are gaming miniatures.(x-wing)

    I've also seen and pre-paid for two copies of Fantasy Flight Games X-Wing Miniatures Core Game TFA Edition which I will pick up on Force Friday. Oh, and I bought two Hasbro Black Series 6" First Order Stormtroopers, which should be here any day now.(stormtrooper)

    I understand people's frustration with a lack of a trailer, and I will not pass judgement on anyone for it, even though it's a frustration I personally do not feel. To each his/her own.:D
     
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    I am actually more embarrassed at the lack of understanding of consumer dynamics and the basics of buying and selling within a free market displayed here in.

    Perhaps using the word boycott was wrong and I wish I could amend the title and some of the opening comment to simply state the value-cost proposition has not been met yet by LFL and Disney to convince me to buy their products. That might be changed by a trailer, but even if there is a trailer if it stinks, which it probably won't, then I still am not obligated to spend my money on their products. And I have a feeling there are others that would agree.
     
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    On a similar note, I tweeted at John Boyega and he didn't respond to me.... the b*****d!
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    That's perfectly fine. They're marketing has failed on you.

    That being said, come the release of these products, you know that you're buying habits will not be influenced by the direction Disney took with their marketing. Whatever you had intended to buy, you'll still buy. Don't kid yourself. You just need to be patient.
     
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    And actually no I would not be embarrassed to say I wouldn't be buying any TFA products until I have seen more of the actual movie. Perhaps a trailer would suffice to a certain degree.

    In turn I would be embarrassed to go around insisting any person is obligated to buy a product at any given time regardless of the value the person perceives is there or not whether via the connected product tie ins, such as the movie, or the marketing they are employing to get me to want to buy the ticket to see the movie.
     
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    Did he tweet you before? Did he set up a Tweet Tuesday event to let you know about even more tweets that were coming? Have you been a life long fan of his tweets?

    I know it's a joke. But it's also a false analogy.
     
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