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Can we this time around have new planets that are more original?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Mudbone, Feb 18, 2016.

  1. Vader_the_White

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    While the creation of new worlds was one of the few well done elements in the prequels, I was fine with the new planets in The Force Awakens. Especially as there are things to distinguish them. For example, Jakku's landscape is littered with the remains of a battle that happened decades ago. Also, it is less rocky looking than Tatooine.
    And as Darth Daigo said above me, there are only so many planet ideas since you do have to quickly establish them.
    But you don't really need too much CGI, especially as once you require a lot of it, the overall quality of the image tends to drop due to the difficulty of compositing the images together in a way that looks natural (thanks to things like lighting, eyelines, etc.).
     
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    I'm interested to see what Rian and the others have come up with for VIII (I'm especially interested in seeing more of Ahch-To), but here's a question:

    I think that the pictures I've seen of Dubrovnik have the same kind of old graceful style that we saw in Naboo, so
    1) Do people think that it's possible that we'll be seeing Naboo again on film, and
    2) Would you want to see Naboo again?

    Personally I think it'd be great to see the planet again, but maybe that's just me.
     
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    I look forward to seeing some new planets as well. The planet choices in TFA certainly didn't ruin anything for me, but I'd be lying if I said that I wouldn't mind seeing a little more diversity. The diversity of the planets we got in the PT was one of its only things that can't be criticized. That being said, if I have to pick between a strong story and characters or new locales, I'll side with the story aspect every time. That being said, this is Star Wars, so we really shouldn't have to sacrifice one for the other going forward ;).

    As others have pointed out, it would be nice to see some environments with atmospheres that are more hostile to life, something in the vain of Mercury or Pluto maybe. Could even be awesome to see a battle in the clouds on a gas giant world like Yavin or Bespin.

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    I also wouldn't mind seeing a planet of Slaughtering Rat People or the Universe's Most Comfortable Couch ;).

     
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    I really hope that Dubrovnik is indeed planet Naboo. Planet Naboo is one of my favorite planets in Star Wars and it is important planet for Skywalker familly. Luke and Leia mother is from planet Naboo. Soo Luke and Leia home planet is indeed Naboo.

    Also Dubrovnik has right look for planet Naboo.
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    Utapau was actualy done mostly with sets and miniatures in PT, not with CGI. Actualy TFA has more CGI than any PT movie.
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    Yes, I am well aware of that. The PFX guys on those films got no respect. Supposedly there is a documentary on their aspect of the production that this one guy on YT was trying to put up a year ago but 20th Fox kept yanking it.
    And no, I can't really argue that point about TFA. At least not at this time. I was thinking Tippett was going to be a bigger part of this production but it was all for 2 seconds of fan service. But what he did do looked smooth as butter.
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    Kinda like how Lothal is a planet that looks like Kansas. There's still room for creativity but yeah, Ep 2&3 had so many planets that it does raise the bar for finding something that would be considered 'original'.
     
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    Well saddly I have to disagree with you. SW is not just about what we as humans can see but what alien creatures can see as well. How boring would it be if every single planet we visited looked like some aspect of Earth no matter how beautiful it may look? Maybe for you, the planets of the prequels were off but I have to say that it was awesome for me seeing different worlds like Felucia, Mustafar and Utapau. How many aquatic races have we seen in SW so far? There are Quarrens/Mon Calamari, Nautolans, Ishi Tib, Chagrians and Aqualish to name just a few and don't you think it would be silly if all their underwater homeworlds looked just like ours? I'd love to see worlds with alien trees and lakes that looked like they had slime or other types of liquids instead of water. I'd love to see a desert which had redish or greenish sand or forests with strange and exotic plants that moved or glowed strangly but why would I want to visit yet another forest or snowy landscape if it's just going to end up looking like the very same thing we saw before? You may like TFA alot but had we not known the names of the planets, we would have all thought that they were the very same ones we saw before. Tatooine, Endor and Coruscant.
     
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    I thought the PT did well to expand the Star Wars galaxy. The detractors, those among and not among TPTB, are doing the saga a great disservice by failing to acknowledge the many strengths of the PT (in addition to the disservice of overblowing the "perfect"-ness of the OT). Among those strengths of the PT were the spectacular planets and visualizations of the galaxy as a whole. Truth is the OT is far from perfect and the PT owns it in world building among other areas. Too bad JJ suffers from myopia as it pertains to the PT instead of acknowledging the greatness of the entire saga (Episodes I-VI and now VII). Despite this myopia, Abrams did a great job with TFA. Hopefully RJ sees the entire saga as the singular entity it is and not separate entities, and in so doing utilizes the strengths of all seven parts in making Episode VIII.
     
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    Yeah the pt gets so much bad stuff said about it simply because , I think, the CGI in it but you're completely right and I hope other people understand where you're coming from.
     
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    I don't understand why you say TFA planets didn't leave "much of an impression". I mean: Coruscant, Geonosis, Kamino were visually astonishing, but the Takodana landing sequence in Ep.7 was stunning, and the planet different enough from Endor: both forest planets, but can you say there's no difference? Takodana forest actually *is* the Takodana forest. And so the Starkiller base ice environment: I don't think someone could confuse it with Hoth, even because the dark forest is a never seen location for SW.
     
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    I want them to visit a pure water world tropical planet with only a few scattered islands. I guess Ach-To is something close to that.
     
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    Patagonia needs to be a Star Wars planet at some point:

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    It's not just the CG that makes people hate the prequels. It's the story, the dialogue, the story, the acting, the story, poor continuity (especially with making every other thing Obi-Wan said in the originals a lie), the story, the characters, the story, the fact that way too much was shot on a blue screen (which really shows, regardless of the backgrounds being CG or minatures), the story, the directing, the story, the boring editing, and did I mention the story?

    Yes, yes, and more yes. Especially those first two pictures.
     
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    suspension of disbelief. That's is what the choice of planets should be about. That's is also why the prequel-style planets got ditched.
     
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    It would be cool if they went to Sullust. The way its portrayed in Battlefront is something we haven't seen in the movies yet.
     
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    The could do a planet that has daylight for one hour or less, vice versa...

    that would be cool.

    A scorched planet would be good also. A good example would be the planet in Chronicles of Riddick. They have some different environmental type planets.
     
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    I really wish they would have stuck with the junkyard planet concept for Jakku, rather than go with the desert planet throwback. It would have been something new while still feeling part of the universe. I saw somewhere that they wanted the planetary environments to indicate something about the characters. For Rey, rather than the "see, she's like Luke" that the Tantoinesque environs suggest, a junkyard planet would tie in nicely with the idea of an orphan that's been left behind and forgotten, while also visually representing her resourcefulness, how she picks up things/skills on the go and finds a way to make it work.

    This is all to say that I'd like to see this planetary concept repurposed down the road, perhaps as a way to intro a useful sidekick, though I feel they missed a real opportunity with TFA and our intro to Rey.

    Might also be interesting to see more artificial environments, e.g. space station trade ports and such or an asteroid-like city. I feel like the only concept like this we've encountered is the original death star but I'm sure I'm overlooking something from the PT or cartoon series.
     
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    You mean...like Alaska ?
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    Isn't there a junkyard planet in TTU (but it's not canon anymore) ?
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    I like your ideas my friend. It would really be awesome to see some artificial enviroments. Some refueling stations in orbit filled with cool interesting droids would be really neat as would a ship maintenance yard filled with cool looking female droids like in Skydoll.
     
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    I also think you can get pretty far using the standard environments but doctoring the color of the sky or the ambient light. This can easily take something familiar and make it more fantastical.

    Like, what if they left the landscape of Jakku as it is, but changed the hue of the sky so it's more of a Mars type planet? Or if the sky of Skykiller Base had a violet hue, which then tints the entire snowy landscape, etc.?
     
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