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SPOILER Concept Art Revealed

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by TIDMADT, Oct 15, 2014.

  1. TIDMADT

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    I think it is Luke's daughter... originally, I agreed with what you are saying now... why would she be there... but if the Alliance isn't doing as good as hoped, if there is mass civil war everywhere... if Luke has been captured and she is hunted... it would be a good place to hide.

    I absolutely agree with you 100%... everyone has a theory... and I have poked holes in many other people's where I have seen (perceived) flaws in their theories... I am looking forward to the payback I am about to receive...
     
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    Well try as I might I can't get to sleep so maybe posting my theories (my full synopsis theory is coming after this) will help me go to sleep, and for some reason it posted before I was ready so now I have to do this from the edit box

    ATAT
    we've all basically decided that this is Daisy's home. The art is gorgeous, and it does appear to be Tatooine, but in my half asleep state I came up with something else. What if it is Moraband? Our little cold war world where the Republic and probably the Empire are both performing archaeological digs? Crackpot theory I know but hey, we have had several rumors of a "Sith World" set.

    Ridley and Boyega Saber
    The first one strikes me as early pre-casting concept art but the scene will probably remain similar. Boyega may have been in training or just very fresh member of whatever special forces unit Christie is in and has at least some understanding of a lightsaber. Daisy has probably been told that she has a lightsaber by MvS but now is starting to grasp what it actually is. The second one could be from the failed attempt of Ridley and Boyega to conquer the evil head on. In the hero's journey they have to face the evil early on and lose.

    Grave Robber
    I had the same reaction upon looking at it, that isn't cybernetic implants that is a mask. Which it then struck me, that could explain Driver's X-Wing pilot outfit and his buddying up with Han. He wears a mask when doing evil Sith things so people don't realize who he is, he's important enough to be recognized otherwise, at least in Imperial circles. The one way to confirm this or not is if he is wearing a glove in the rumored production still. If he then that means the cybernetic hand is his, if not, then this concept art depicts his master.

    Ridley and the Beast
    This is going to be a climactic scene. The evil entity driving Driver (pun intended) has seen the future of Ridley and knows she will be Skywalker's apprentice and bring an end to his plans, he needs to seduce her to the dark side before this happens. Daisy is fooled into thinking that this mythical Luke guy she has been chasing after is evil and gives up hope. But Boyegaman comes to the rescue and brings her back to her senses as Luke might be forced to distract the big bad.

    Hangars and Stuff
    Our heroes barely escape a vengeful Christie, who I will explain in my synopsis, thinks that Boyega has gone turncoat and holds information vital to the Empire. Isaac, hired at the last second to get them out of there in a scene echoing a New Hope, brings them to one of his favorite hide outs. Only for it to get attacked by the chasing Imperials, I will also explain why Han Solo and his rumored Star Destroyer will get caught in the crossfire as well. The other hangar I think depicts a Rebel base as opposed to a pirate haven, the cold war is turning hot you know

    Hangar and Castle
    The first concept art I think depicts the hangar where we first find the Falcon. The second one is climactic area where we get Ridley in the throne room scene. The escape from this castle may be what leads to the rumored Falcon crash?

    Pod Stuff
    I think at least two of these art pieces are alternate designs of the same thing, the skiff type vehicle Ridley uses for whatever she does to make ends meet. Junk dealing, smuggling, arms dealing, whatever.

    TIE Fighters
    Boyega's crash landing as he tries to escape Driver, who has convinced Christie that Boyega has stolen Imperial secrets and that is why he fled.

    Abu Dharib
    Concept stuff for hangar we find Falcon at, I think it's early stuff. The beast of burden will most likely appear like a Dewback

    Chewbacca and Trooper
    Just early concepts of Chewbacca, maybe he gets hurt. The trooper is interesting, suggest that Christie may indeed be wielding a lightsaber. Given her GoT background that may be why she was cast.

    Daisy Ridley
    Ridley's outfit and what I theorize to be an idea for when and where she meets the alien (who I say will be Serkis) that has found the mysterious box in the desert he can't open. Daisy may be able to open it, maybe can't. But no matter what the outcome she has no idea what she until MvS sees it

    Montross
    You guys did it, you finally convinced me MvS isn't the villain, but he is important. The idea of him actually BEING Montross is interesting but doubtful. He will however explain to Ridley what she has and may even be the one who opens the box. But there is an Imperial bounty out for important information on mysterious things (they're looking for Boyega). And MvS can't turn down a solid payday, so he phones it in.

    WAMPA Saber
    My first thought was Driver's lightsaber, but I like the Christie idea better.

    Vader's Mask
    One of many Seth relics that Driver and his master covet
     
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    If that doesn't work, try reading some of my old posts... they should be able to put anyone to sleep...
     
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    It posted when I didn't want it to, editing it now to actually contain my theories
     
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    i really didn't want to believe it could be Luke, (and the beard notwithstanding) is it just me or does the jawline in "Grave Robber" and the visible human eye in "Dark Knight & Daisy Ridley" look a LOT like Luke? I don't know - it does appear more youthful than it should - but it just looks like Luke's jaw and Luke's eye to me.
     
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    In 1977, why was the son of Vader and the former Queen/Senator of Naboo living life as a humble desert bumpkin? Well, Lucas didn't plan ahead but now they are for the ST. Star Wars is about humble introductions for its main characters, from Vader/Anakin starting out as a desert slave to Luke to now Ezra Bridger in Rebels and Daisy Ridley's character in Episode VII. Only question I have is when it will be officially revealed, before the movie comes out, in the movie, or later.
     
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    I'm tellin ya... I think it is Luke... I think that is a mask, not a cyborg face... that's the Mask of Zorro, brother... and the Dark Knight is gonna go bring the bad guys to justice...
     
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    and posted, now on to my synopsis
     
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    JK-Sword? Isn't this Jedi Knight Sword? It seems a bit of a waste to use those amazing ruins on Skellig then slap a big old CGI castle on it? Looks like Hogwarts!
    The Cyborg looks like it is Driver dressed up like Palpatine / Sidious. So if we are back on Tattoine he must be looking for something to do with Anakin's birth I think... a relic or a person... or both.
    The vehicles on Tattoine and the encampment look a little bit like Star Trek 5. GOD PLEASE DON'T LET IT BE STAR TREK 5!!!
    If he has Vader's helmet then he's been to Endor, we may not need to see this (apart from its a great scene finding it buried in ash) but the Massassi Hanger some very big trees in the back ground and Driver could be masquerading as a Rebel to get closer to these locations that have he items he needs.
    All very exciting.
     
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    'doh

    In all the excitement, I didn't think "JK" as "Jedi Knight" The rumor was that Christie was gonna have it, and that she was the head of the chromies...

    I overlooked the obvious, which you did not...
     
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    I think you might be on to something here. Driver wearing a mask he can take off to hide his identity - and the big reveal would be him putting it on/taking it off at the climax. It makes a lot of sense with him dressed up as a rebel etc. Good times.
     
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    My initial thoughts are that many of these sketches/paintings don't remind me of the Star Wars aesthetic (obviously excepting images of the Millennium Falcon and a few of the buildings). They seem more like the over-engineered work of some computer game artists who see the need to bloat the smallest patch of bare space with intricate detail to the point that the detailing and object silhouettes look ugly; case in point is the 'augmented' TIE Fighter which I think looks terrible - the striking simplicity of the original design has been defaced by chunky panels and framework. I'd much rather see entirely new vehicle designs than sub-par conservative reinterpretations of iconic designs.

    I noticed the speeder entering the fallen AT-AT matches the design of the practical model we saw on the Abu Dhabi set photos months ago.

    I wonder if we're getting the Yavin IV Massassi base, or if it's only being used as a conceptual starting point for the development of the Pirate Cove ... or, is the Pirate base a renovation of the deserted and partially fauna-reclaimed Yavin Temple?
     
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    As much as I grudgingly am holding on to the concept that it is Luke in a Zorro/Batman campaign to rid the galaxy of evil and bring forth justice... I have to admit that the Batman theory could equally hold to Driver... he could be masquerading as a good guy... he could even be a good guy who sneaks off and does some wicked things, then sneaks back and shows up and watches the report on the Galactic news and says, "wow, that guy is awesome"

    Even though I think my theory fits... I have to admit this also is possible... although it would be like JJ to have Driver flying around even in a black x-wing throwing attention to him to make the audience believe it might be him so the twist would be all the greater...

    First... excellent critique on the artwork... I think its a generational thing, with artists using the tools they have, and I far prefer Ralph with a pencil over anyone with a keyboard...

    As for the base, if you look at the inset, there is a direct comparison to the Rebel base in Ep IV... it even says Ep IV... so I would think it is Yavin
     
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    I'm not terribly vexed by the concept art, even if it does exactly match what we'll be getting in the film. It's not entirely my cup of Jawa Juice, but I also know never to judge a largely unknown and incomplete film by sketches. The script is the most important element, and the design the bells & whistles. As we saw with the prequel design process, some elements I thought looked better than their final look on-screen, and others were rightly dismissed.
     
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    This concept art is just down right AWESOME! I hope these are legit.
     
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    Ah, what's this? There appears to be a second Corellian Freighter called The Carousel. I thought it was a term for some part of the rebuilding of the Millennium Falcon, but there is a direct size comparison between two freighters, overlaid, one being the smaller with pronged mandibles ... The Carousel is the pint-sized Falcon?
     
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    Its everything we have been talking about and more... and the blueprints are just too much for me to think this is fake. Even among those of us who are following this pretty close, how many know that the working codename for Ep VII is AVCO?
     
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    Agreed....I thought it looked like Carrie Fisher's daughter Billie Lourde who some say is in the movie.
     
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    Way cool! Does anyone have any idea of the story behind Chewy having the cybernetic hand and/or if that is the route they went with him?
     
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    I am actually in a chat room discussing this at some length... Carousel is mentioned on more than one of the blueprints, but our belief is that it refers not to a second ship, but to a set design technique... which would be rather fitting in the circumstances. Every indication is that it is the same ship, just on scale, and that Carousel refers to set design

    Latest rumors from the best sources available say that the cyborg wookie was a concept not used, but he does have a bandaged arm... can't confirm 100% on any of it...

    Not for nothing, but if you look at the title of the concept, it is "Concept Art - Dark Knight & Daisy Ridley"

    It could be Billie Lourde playing Daisy Ridley, but chances are its Daisy Ridley
     
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