Criticisms Of Rogue One

The battle of Scarif is definitely smaller than the battle of Endor.

 

Agreed, waaayyy smaller. For one thing the Rebels only have one large capital ship compared to their much larger fleet of capital ships in RotJ. Additionally, there are only a few Star Destroyers compared to the massive amount that we see in RotJ, plus no Super Star Destroyers have been built at this point in the timeline. You could argue that the battle in Rogue One is just as crucial of course, but definitely no where near the same scale.

As far as I'm aware, the only other space battles in Canon that approach the scale of the one in RotJ are the battle above Coruscant in RotS and the Battle of Jakku that effectively ends the Galactic Civil War.

 

No.

 

I enjoyed R1 greatly, but there were some issues.

1. I still feel that there should have been the Star Wars logo and a scroll at the start of the movie.

2. There were some scenes that did not make much sense. Despite the space octopus determining that Bodhi did not lie, Saw still thought that Bodhi was not telling the truth. If Saw did not believe the space octopus, why use it?

3. I also did not understand why Saw did not even try to escape the destruction of Jedha. He says something that he has become to tired to run, but earlier that day his group of rebels attacked a patrol in the city, suggesting that he is still willing to fight the Empire.

4. Having read Catalyst, I understood the complexity of Jyn's feelings towards her father. She loves him, but she also hates him for leaving her. However, I felt that this duality will not be understood by viewers who have not read the book.

5. There were perhaps too many references to the other SW movies. Two scenes in particular took me out of the movie. First, the scene with Dr Evazan and Ponda Baba on Jedha. Because Jedha is destroyed shortly after Jyn bumps into them, it is unclear how they are unable to escape the destruction and ended a few days later on Tatooine. Second, the scene with C3PO and R2D2 on Yavin IV. C3PO seems to be unaware about the Rebellion when he and R2D2 are escaping the Tantive IV and are wandering the desert. Them being on Yavin IV before ANH suggests that C3PO should have known more.

6. While I have seen the movie twice, I still do not fully understand what the cable that Bodhi has to plug in and the switch that Chirrut has to flip exactly do. It might be explained, but it is still not clear to me.

It seems that I will have to watch the movie a third or fourth time.

 

Well, she's still haunting my brain with her plasticy cgi-ness. I'm glad it's not bothering anyone else at all, though. That would be terrible.

 

Signaling sticks for the ground crew. They showed one ground crew member as their shuttle landed.

 

You know, there are so many questions like these that are asked on the forums it makes me wonder, "Do people not freakin pay attention during the film?" LMAO

 

I am surprised that there was confusion around this as the first 2/3 of the movie covered this, sometimes with direct dialogue.

I don't know how much a crawl would have helped with casual fans. If it is only 3 paragraphs how much could be explained and what would its focus be? Does it talk about Galen, Krennic, the Death Star, the Rebellion? I think a crawl could get overly confusing for casual fans. Some casual fans still struggle with the difference between the Rebellion and the Resistance.

I thought the flashback Prologue was a good substitute for the crawl as it sets the stage. We learn that Galen is necessary for the "work" as it has stalled, Jyn is now abandoned because her mother was killed and father taken away, and we know several years have passed to bring us to the present day.

 

Eh, I disagree. The flashback prologue wasn't nearly as effective as having a crawl. It wouldn't have been hard to explain things in three paragraphs, nor would it have made things more confusing. Honestly, there's no reason they couldn't have had both.

As a longtime Star Wars fan who reads every bit of Canon material, I got everything perfectly. However my friends who were older and more casual fans didn't grasp everything as well as they could have. A little bit of exposition ahead of time would have definitely cleared up some of the confusion for them, as they understood things just fine when I explained afterwards, probably in less than three paragraphs worth of explanation mind you .

 

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Nothing comes to mind after 3 viewings! xD

I would of called "The Ring of Kafrene" Ord Mantell but apparently that's been shown as a setting already in the "Darth Maul—Son of Dathomir" comic which is part of new Canon so I got nothin'!

xD <3

 

Not necessarily a criticism, but did anyone notice the scene on Eadu where the scientists were killed on the landing platform? Apparently the Empire does not a "friendly fire" policy. There was a small formation of storm troopers in formation behind both flanks of the line of scientists. Not one single trooper broke formation when the Death Troopers drew down and fired on the scientists. I would have at least broke formation and protested about a gun being pointed in my direction or been diving out of the way as soon as Krennic yelled "Fire!"

 

That is a fairly common mistake in movies these days so it seems. I saw the Magnificent 7 a couple days ago and I noticed that during the training up the towns people to shoot their rifles at man shaped targets as a cohesive group sequence the intended targets were backed up by the town itself by about 50 meters with people milling about. I thought wow the joke was supposed to be about how they shot so poorly and needed motivation to hate what they were shooting at perhaps it should have been, hey hit your targets because your house and family are right next to them.

But yeah ND/trigger discipline and friendly fire considerations don't seem to be much of an priority in the GFFA.

 

Eskrima sticks commonly used in Filipino Martial Arts, Its the galaxy's far, far, away version...haha

 

I wondered what those were supposed to be. The imperial that was equipped with whatever those were was part of an inspection team so I thought that while sure enough they did look like the weapons you describe, that they seemed a bit strange as they had 2 armed stormtroopers as part of the team so maybe they weren't weapons. I theorized maybe they were some kind of scanning device or the directional light sticks used by ground guides or something like that. But then again maybe they were in fact weapons for close in combat where they couldn't use blasters.

 

I'm not sure whether this has been discussed already, but one thing in particular left me confused.

Why did Tarkin not fire the Death Star directly at the base of the Scarif Citadel Tower? Why did he take out the dish on the top? Well, obviously our heroes needed a gallant ending, which they wouldn't have had if the Death Star fired directly at the base.

But what was Tarkin's reason in the movie? Did he only want to kill Krennic? Did he just want to destroy the dish so that the rebels could not send the plans? Or perhaps, was the Death Star not perfectly aligned to fire the base of the tower? It was pretty obvious that the base would be completely destroyed no matter where the Death Star fired, so it was confusing to aim at the dish.

 

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He DID aim there but obviously it hit the dish first becasue it was closest to the laser...of coruse it kept going...destroying everything.

 

I didn't mind the prologue at all. I am a little confused on what exactly was Galen and Saw's plan. And I must admit that I found Lyra Erso's attempt to save her husband rather suicidal and stupid. Otherwise, I didn't mind it at all, considering this movie was a stand alone and not part of a series.


After I saw the movie for a second time, I discovered that I enjoyed it more than I did the first time I saw it. But that last act is still a problem for me. I realized that a lot of people loved it, but I could not help but feel that the whole Battle of Scarif was a bit too much, considering that this whole thing was supposed to start as a covert (and unsanctioned) military intelligence operation. A part of me cannot help but wish that Jyn Erso’s goal to steal the Death Star plans had been a planned operation from the beginning. I also wish that they had ended the story without a large-scale battle that involved the entire Rebel fleet (is that right?).