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SPECULATION Did Kylo save Rey?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Jon T Zon, Jan 30, 2016.

  1. AstromechRecords

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    I thinks they were just simply over all visions experienced through the crystal of the LIGHTSABER which acts as a sort-of "hard drive" hat stores it's hard data like a "Black Box" of sorts but it causes the wipe sets to experience potential futures in-relation and what Rey saw as try future just so happened to happen .
     
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    Now I am...somewhat confused. You know it is frustrating sometimes to the point that thinking so deep into something really hurts your brain. I don't think maybe the crystal inside the lightsaber has anything to do with what Rey saw but it was the force itself that enabled her to see these visions just by touching the lightsaber. The way I see it is that when Rey touches Anakin's former lightsaber that was passed down to Luke from Obi-Wan who had it for so long, the force awakens more fully in Rey and she is able to foresee the past events, the future and what may or may not come to pass in the not so distant future...and it isn't until Maz tells Rey that she has a power she never knew she had, Rey becomes emotionally scared and confused that initially, she rejects her destiny that will become a reality to her one day and runs away. It's not until she sees the First Order Fleet arriving, she has second thoughts because she wants to make sure that BB-8 is safe with the resistance. Now if then she wanted to take off right at that moment, things get serious when Kylo finds Rey which leads to the confrontation in the forest where he captures her. At this point, there is no way for Rey to escape her destiny when she is unconscious as Kylo carries her to his shuttle. Still, it is unclear whether or not Rey will or has accepted her destiny at the end when she finds Luke...only time will tell.
     
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    do you not feel that her embracing the Force to beat Kylo Ren in the duel and subsequently taking the lightsaber to Luke is sufficiently demonstrative of her embracing her destiny?
     
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    Oh...perhaps...you know funny you mentioned that cause...I forgot about that scene...considering how important it was. But again, I wonder what she was thinking of at the time because to me, it looked like when kylo was trying to get inside her mind at that moment, with Rey being so strong, she focused on pushing him out of her mind by accepting the force itself but not her destiny. At this point, we don;t know what her true destiny is and who and where it lies...thats a question that remains to be a mystery. I am sure after episode IX, it will be answered...visually. ;)
     
  5. AstromechRecords

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    You really think they'd leave unanswered questions to Rey from Thr ST by the end of IX ?
     
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    Isn't it possible that Luke never knew that he had a daughter—Rey. This would be similar to Anakin—Darth Vader—thinking that Padme's child died with her. Darth Vader was clueless that he ever had a child, much less twins.

    Theory: Luke may had fallen in love with a young woman, had a fling, and then realized he was putting her in danger by her association with a Jedi. So he broke off the relationship with the idea of protecting her. He never finds out that he has a child by her. Later the woman marries another man, and together they raise Luke's daughter. They may have left the child on Jakku to protect Rey, and later they are killed—Snoke is killing anyone that has Jedi ties.

    That's just an idea I had; and it has precedence in the Star Wars universe.
     
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    To out a spin on things, what if REY saves KYLO ?!
     
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    oh I hate it when my fingers type too fast for me when just now I made a typing error. Sorry...my bad. I meant to say throughout the trilogy to the end in IX. sorry for the confusion...now that I think about it, whatever the end is in IX could possibly open the door to what will follow beyond the ST.
     
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    I don't think that Kylo will be saved...I think that aren't will once again need saving but it's left ambiguous as to where her head is at the end of IX.
     
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    Are you replying to both posts? if so...okay...and no, I don't think Rey will save Kylo. Why would she after all what Kylo did to Han in front of Rey and not to mention, Chewie? Clearly to her, Kylo Ren/Ben Solo is a monster and even Rey said so herself.

    "It's just us now. Han Solo can't save you now!" - Kylo Ren
     
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    Better theory than the others but once again, it's not the Jedi code and Luke is the last of them. His responsability is huge.

    From what he looked like in the movie, I'm sure he applied the code. And finally giving a child to Unkar Plutt doesn't seem the best way to protect him. Luke or not.
     
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    As of right now, Rey hates Kylo Ren. So I wouldn't guarantee that she saves Kylo Ren. But that would be an interesting twist in IX!
     
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    Yeah, because it's in her nature...Kylo is trying to be good but afinn is secretly bad and she chooses Kylo over afinn and defeats evil in the the end .
     
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    emphasis on "us". interesting, that.
     
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    *leans back in his seat with his hand brushing slightly along his chin - Obi style* Yes....interesting indeed.
     
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    i also find if you think about all of Kylo Ren's lines as being unconsciously self-reflexive, you get a really interesting read on the character.
     
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    Yes...most impressive.

    I have to ask though, how do I 'like' a post... ?
     
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    you have to wait until you complete 30 posts, then you'll see a bar at the bottom of each post which, when you scroll over it, it will give you a variety of rating options. you're halfway way!
     
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    okay awesome. I was wondering why I wasn't able to...lol. I am currently watching Star Wars Rebels. I saw the first two episodes a while ago...I wasn't too keen on it but somehow, I got myself into it really hard. lol. Its quite good in some respects...I like it. So its true that this show takes place 15 years after RotS? which means...there is four years left until the events of ANH will come into play. :)
     
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    To me, the most emotionally satisfying explanation for the forceback is that Kylo saves Luke after the massacre. Rey can only be used as a stand-in for Luke in the KOR scene because the "rules" have already been established with the first vision, where she stands in for Luke in Cloud City.

    Luke "I will not fight you, father" Skywalker is lying there on the ground, possibly injured, having been unable to stop the massacre in a non-violent way. I can imagine that he is really the "weak and foolish" father figure whose "son" Ben Kylo later claims to have killed. But there and then, as this "clan leader" wants to finish Luke off, Kylo steps in and saves his uncle. Like Vader saved Luke from the Emperor in ROTJ and Rey spares Kylo at the end of TFA.
     
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