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OFFICIAL NEWS Disney didn’t Use George Lucas’ Ideas for The Force Awakens.

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Viral Hide, Jan 20, 2015.

  1. DarthMoonlight

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    We all owe a lot to George, for creating Star Wars and these characters. But he had good sound boards and directors for v and vi, and surely he knows the PT were a lot down and lacked a lot of character
     
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    It sounds like from that interview with Charlie Rose that Lucas almost regrets selling Star Wars to Disney. And probably after a few more movies, it's not going to really feel like Star Wars anymore without Lucas' involvement. I have a feeling that Lucas won't be seeing 'The Force Awakens' or if he does, he's going to try to keep a low profile and try not to speak out against it (assuming he doesn't like it).
     
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    I don't feel bad for Lucas at all. It's kind of hypocritical to bemoan a lack of story and artistic vision and all that while being one of the major figures responsible for the merchandising behemoth that is Star Wars. I have been a Star Wars fan pretty much my entire life, but (as an adult) I've always been slightly annoyed by Lucas' pretentious attitude about artistic integrity or some such when the man basically invented movie/merchandise tie-ins and blockbuster cinema (along with Spielberg).

    And complaining now about the direction Disney is taking things (it's actually Lucasfilm that's charting the path, if I understand the situation correctly), 3+ years after selling, is pretty lame.
     
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    Anyone who thinks it is horrible that they didn't use Lucas's outlines for TFA, go read the original synopsis and about 3-4 drafts of the original Star Wars, and even the sequels. Ideas evolve. No one, including GL, is slavish to outlines and synopses. Even in early drafts of EP1 Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan's names were switched. Young Qui-Gon was going to take the name of his master when he died (old Jedi tradition to honor a slain master).
     
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    Lucas is the spark which spawned Star Wars, nothing can change that.. and the prequels were far more beloved prior to the whole 'middle class internet movie hate culture' which was brought along by people like Red Letter Media, Nostalgia Critic and so on.. people are so goddamn cynical and weak minded today. They don't like something until their favorite critic does. They're just waiting to tear something apart.

    People are saying Lucas is bitter but I disagree, hes taking the high road and drawing the line. The direction of the new trilogy grates against his own so he wants no involvement in spite of the imminent acclaim it'll recieve. That deserves respect.
     
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    Middle class?
     
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    I think he means people that are not FANBOYS/ FANGIRLS
     
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    I don't know who you were hanging around with, but the prequels were never beloved. They were seen as poor movies from day one. Do you think RLM et al changed people's opinions on the movies and suddenly people hated the prequels, because it was cool. These videos are revered because they brilliantly articulated why the PT is so poor. They amalgamated what people already felt about them. The prequels were never liked by the vast majority of Star Wars fans.

    Re 'middle class internet movie hate culture', that sounds like something you've just made up or read once.
     
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    I did not realize being middle class was an insult.
     
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    Hey...I think I might be middle-class...I'm offended!
     
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    Does anyone know the legality/possibility of remaking the prequels? Was that info included in the sale?
     
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    ...People actually think RLM started the trend of disliking the prequels? The Plinkett reviews were a summary of the opinions of the majority of internet-going Star Wars fans that had been circulating around the internet since 1999, with the release of TPM. The whole idea that the prequels were beloved upon release until the mean fanboys made people dislike them is a very recent narrative with no basis in fact. I get that not everyone was browsing forums and message boards back in the lawless days of the mid-2000's, but trust me - there was no concerted effort on part of a "hate machine". The reaction to the prequels was 100% naturally born.

    People were so disappointed, you can't even imagine the reaction if you weren't using the internet for communication back then. The bad acting, bad writing, child Anakin, Jar-Jar and other racist aliens, midichlorians, overuse of computer animation, "I hate sand", all of it. Star Wars went from being one of the highest-tier things to be a fan of to one of the lowest in a matter of months, and the fanbase took some big hits.

    It's actually a miracle that there's as much interest and hype for TFA as there is given what happened to the fanbase back then.
     
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    I never said that were beloved or that the majority of fans like them, I said they were MORE beloved before it hit 2009 or so.



    Wow.. not so chummy after all :rolleyes:


    Anyone who has paid attention to my posts knows i'm not a fan of the prequels, but even I will be the first to say they get WAY too much hate.

    MOD EDIT: LANGUAGE
     
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    Where can I find these?
     
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    hey, I was sticking up for you man, I guess I didn't fully understand what you were saying brother...All Good! still chums, lol
     
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    I'd say there's actually MORE interest in TFA directly because of the prequels. People are very interested to see how the story continues in different hands..
     
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    I'd really like to know more about what Lucas had proposed for the ST.
     
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    Same. I want to know why they essentially threw out his work.
     
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    http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/05/star-wars-the-force-awakens-vanity-fair-cover

     
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