SPECULATION Episode II and III are depressing movies.

The official Star Wars databank originally said that Sidious used the identity of Sifo Diyas to order the clones himself. This may not be the latest version of canon, but I personally prefer it. With newer versions, Sidious still has to take over the project anyway (otherwise Order 66 doesn't make much sense), so what's the point of making the Jedi responsible for something evil?

Even if you prefer the newer version, though, that actually doesn't affect the point here: Either way, the Kaminoans believed that the project was authorized by the Jedi Council. This is corroborated by the fact that they react to Obi-Wan's arrival by saying, "What took ya so long to get here?" rather than "Who the heck are you?"
(Those are, of course, not literal quotations.)

 

It's been a while since I watched it so I don't remember if this is one of his better vidoes, but YouTube user Stupendous Wave makes pretty good videos, here's one he did on Order 66:

 

I keep track of his stuff, so I have seen that. But I still maintain that, if this were the case, Ep. II itself (or III) could have made that clearer. It's all well and good that we have info like this, but the movie is still a bit weak on the explanatory side of things IMO.

 

I think it might be more of what you prefer in a romance. I think both themes are excellently written (I mean, we are talking about John Williams, damn it), but I lean towards "Han Solo and the Princess". Not because the romance between Anakin and Padmé itself is astonishingly awful in its execution (which it is), but because I just personally prefer the more intimate feel of "HSatP" to the very lush, bombastic "Across the Stars".

 

Exactly, one shouldn't have to search out supplementary information in order for a movie to make sense. For instance, TCW evolved into a great show over time and brought a lot of great development to the PT era and characters. I would say that watching it will give the average SW fan a much better appreciation for the PT. However, things like that don't make the films good in of themselves, they still need to stand on their own. TCW did an excellent job developing Anakin in both his heroic and darker traits into someone the audience can really feel for, but that doesn't excuse how unlikable Anakin was for the most part in the movies themselves.

 

I wish I could give you a few thousand more likes.

 

Now, here's something to consider, I guess...Do any of the AOTC deleted scenes flesh things out any better in the areas we're talking about? It's been a while since I've seen them, but I do know Ep. III had some deleted scenes that would have added greater cohesion overall.

 

I want to go watch them now .

 

Just so you know, there some that aren't all on the Blu-Ray nor are they all on the DVD. It's annoying.

 

They can be found on YouTube (I think .) . .

 

That should do the trick, yep!

 

have a watch with out jar jar. total different movie. the cuts a bit choppy but worth a hour

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i would have liked there romance had there been any.
bondage natalie portman was kinda hot.
i hate sand.

 

Is there a way we can watch "A New Hope" without the adventures of Threepio and Artoo on Tatooine? Or cut out most of the Tatooine sequence, with the exception of the Mos Eisley scene, and have Luke and Obi-Wan meet there? Can someone fix the dialogue, allow Leia to openly mourn the destruction of Alderaan, and set up Han and Leia's interest in each other for "The Empire Strikes Back"?

 

The problem is with the O.T its the template for all other starwars films, they are the reason we all love starwars so the people on here believe there is nothing to fix with the films they love.
the prequels were not of the same standard to most people, that doesn't mean they weren't watched. most in not all of us will watch anything starwars has to offer, but we recognise well written starwars

if you like the movies good i hope they brought you every thing the originals brought me, but defending them to dissatisfied people that know they could have been much more is pointless.

ill conceived plot, and bad dialogue for me are the main issue once you have taken jar jar out of the movie. quigon gin and obi wan played the wrong role. natalie portman should have been the same age as anakin to let a real romance develop over the course of the trilogy, the queen plot is so redundant and tacked on it literally doesn't make sense. maul is underused. Watch my cut with out jar jar, allow for the fact theres some choppy cuts and just try and get a sense of the movie with out the childish blast. and give me your honest opinion having watched it all. and i will discuss with you as much as you want why its a bad film and the O.T isn't.

This is the trailer.

 

They could have added more lightsaber duels to them.

 

All this tells me that these constant bashing of the Prequel films, attempt to "re-edit" the movies, and pro-TFA comments are just as pointless to me and others who like the PT movies, as my defense of those same movies are to anti-PT fans.

 

The difference being that we actually have a large amount of evidence. You mostly act like the OT and TFA are worse films.

 

What evidence? You don't have any evidence to back your opinion. I don't have any evidence to back my opinions. Our opinions are SUBJECTIVE. You do understand what that means . . . right?

So to insist that I stop defending the Prequel movies is pointless to me. I will continue defending or criticizing anything about the seven movies that have been released so far. I'm entitled to express my opinion, just as everyone else is.

 

Every single one of those scenes are part of cinematic history. Touching them would be a disgrace.

 

Personally, I like the prequels. I saw ANH in 1977, ESB, and ROTJ all in theaters as they came out. The prequels were a way to bring Star Wars back. Were they the best movies ever? Of course not. Would they stand the test of time if not for being part of the SW saga? Maybe not. But what they did do was introduce Star Wars to a new generation. TFA is doing the same. If you don't continue on (even with some less than perfect movies, books, etc.), you end up losing the story. How many story lines or characters have you ever dug up that your parents or grandparents read about or watched on the screen and thought how great a story it was? My children became interested in SW because of the prequels. I work with elementary age kids who love the CW cartoons. When I ask who the best bounty hunter is, their answer is Cad Bane. (I schooled them about Fett when I picked myself up off the floor). We need those movies, untouched and original for that generation. Bring on more for the next generation so when I'm too old to drive, my great grandchildren will take me to see Star Wars XXV