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SPOILER Fate of our Rogue One crew!

Discussion in 'Rogue One' started by Lord Revanous, Dec 16, 2016.

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    Instead of the mon calamari sayin, "may the force be with you," Jyn should have looked at cassian and say, "may the force be with us" , as the water drowns them. Also, I don't think that saw was ever even needed. Vader killing everyone should have happened as he was entering the ship in the opening of ANH and then cut to Leia whispering to Artoo, "may the force be with you and him and threepio's cameo should have been there and the very last shot should have been the escape pod
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    Yeah, he was an interesting addition. He was definitely there for more than just fanservice. Star Wars knows how to do throwaway fanservice (just look at Ponda Baba and the good Doctor for that). I like how his presence demonstrates how the Rebels were a fractured group.

    I also like how he's almost a bizarro Vader. We see him using very Vader-like interrogation methods, it's made very clear that he's slowly becoming more machine than man, and the film often brings attention to his breathing apparatus (which hearkens back to Vaders). Plus, he's very clearly feared by the Empire, due to his past successes and his brutal measures.

    Not sure why these attributes were given to saw in particular, but it was an interesting choice, to be sure.
     
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    Firstly, agreed. I think that was always something I didn't like was the Mon's and their use of MTFBWY! Also, for sure, she should have made another reference to the Kyber and simplify the scene again, to just Jyn and Cassian sitting there, looking at the necklace and says "May the force be with us"! BAM! Scene! Look, I really loved that scene with Vader just crippling Rebel, I hope they had good medical insurance because he went crazy on them and it was awesome! I said to my mate I would have loved if they used Original footage at the end, but I guess now you can watch Ep 4 and it's only a few hours/ days after this movie.
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    Yeah, I think he was more of a NOD to the show, just to prove to people they where linking the bits and pieces.
     
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    I had tears in my eyes during Jyn and Cassian's death scene, such a powerful and sad moment. The hug was completely appropriate.

    I had no problems with Bodhi's death. For me, it signified the randomness and brutality of war... killed by a 'random' grenade.
     
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    I'd put you in charge.
     
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    I'd say we got the whole spectrum of deaths at the end from the heroic sacrifice of K2 to the unceremonious death of Bodhi. Sometimes you don't get the chance to make some epic act as you die, sometimes you just die in war. Personally I would have liked for someone to live but I've made my peace with it.
     
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    Did anyone else notice that Pao didn't die?
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    Very true, his hearing to the ground was impressive in taking them out.
     
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    I know the general consensus is that Jyn Erso died, but I think her character is too important to kill off and this is why her actual death wasn't depicted, but inferred. While this is pure speculation, It is possible K-2SO reprogrammed the other K-X series droid that he learned the location and pathway to the deatabase from. Otherwise, this scene seems pointless and taking control of another KX droid to learn this information seems rather risky compared to using a terminal. This would allow another K-2SO to resue Cassian and Jyn, even if cassian dies from his wound later. Jyn not appearing in the trilogy wouldn't cause any issues for me, she has evenged her father and can just dissapear and why can be explained later.
     
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    A line I thought of while Cassian and Jyn were sitting on the Scarif beach awaiting their fate....

    Jyn: *sighs*
    Cassian: "Cheer up. At least we'll have a squadron of snowspeeders named after us in Episode 5!"

    ;)
     
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    Not technically part of the crew, but do you guys think Admiral Raddus made it out of there?
     
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    Probably not. Neither him or his flagship were seen again in other Episodes. And explains why Admiral Ackbar rose up the ranks to lead the Mon Calamari instead.
    ;)
     
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    I saw it again today and actually I really do agree. The feels hit me alot harder this time and I felt a lot more connected to them
     
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    Althought all actors are really great in their characters, there are a lot, and it's difficult to empathize with one of them. The character development probably is one minor weak point of RO although it's not a really big problem for me.

    Said this, Bodhi Rock's death was the most painful for me (the most i worried more) Probably because his character has an interesting evolution, probably because his final steps were helping the group doing lots of things. Killed by a random grenade was hard.
     
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    Nah ship was used as the rear guard so the Tantive IV could escape.
     
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    Now we know why Vader says, "There wil be no one to stop us this time."
     
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    The deaths all had impact and I respect that they chose to make us like all the characters (even if only briefly) and then dispatch them in a way that is less Hollywood, less glorious, and theatrical. Bohdi's death in particular I thought was important to depict that way. This was Star Wars finally framed as a war movie from the perspective of the women and men fighting as soldiers and pilots and dying. We don't just got random extras falling from blaster fire... we see their faces, we hear their voices, we see them wrestle with their fear to accomplish their mission, we feel their sacrifice in a way I don't think we've done in other movies.

    For example, I think it was the Blue Leader who was piloting the X-wing fighter inside the shield, leading the squads providing air cover, and picking off TIEs that had gotten on the tail of other X-Wing fighters. I find myself tensing up hoping that somehow that he would make it out, because he was saving everyone else, and when he got shot down and screamed as he crashed, THAT one hurt a lot. He was so heroic in the battle, he saved so many others, and no one who was there to witness would ever live to tell what he did.

    Then there was the aspect of watching each soldier and pilot "advance the football down the field" and die, not ever knowing if sacrificing their very lives made the difference. The soldiers that kept running out to try to hit the master switch... gave their lives for just one piece of gigantic puzzle that they never got to see. Bohdi dies on the shuttle not knowing if the message ever gets transferred. It shows you just how desperate the situation was for the Rebel Alliance, and how much they had to sacrifice just to get those plans.
     
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    i don't have anything to say here because i agree with your post almost to the letter. i think Jyn facing her death alone would have been bittersweet and Cassian's death more heroic. i also wished Bohdi'd had someone to mourn him. Baze, Chirrut, and K-2SO were pitch perfect.
     
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    I was choked in the first viewing and I had literally tears pouring down my face on the second at that point.

    I think it was poetic. How his life's main endeavor - to deliver the ultimate space station, the Death Star - was the thing that destroyed him.

    That was beautiful, in my opinion. The feeling of despair and the implied romance between those two was simply neat.

    I have seen a lot of criticism about the portrayal of Saw Gerrera but in my opinion, it comes full circle with what we know about him from TCW, from Catalyst and from what we will learn in Rebels Season 3. When he was having this exchange with Jyn, I couldn't help but think of this guy when he was younger and being trained by the Jedi. Seeing Saw was powerful since you cannot avoid thinking of his sister, Lux Bonteri, Ahsoka Tano, Captain Rex and a random Jedi knoght named Anakin. It also ties his legacy mentioned on Bloodline, he was part of the Rebellion against the Empire but not part of the Alliance. At one point it embodies the conflict that some other Rebel cells might have faced - like our Lothal Rebels friends: do we keep our fight on our own or do we become part of this group? Hera Syndulla and her crew did it, but what about Saw? Even Hera's dad was reluctant to become part of something greater, he cared only about Ryloth and we saw that in his first appearance on Rebels as well as in Lords of the Sith.
     
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    The hug in the sun was not corny: it was a recreation of Luke's binary sunset moment in A New Hope and of a similar scene with Beru and Owen in Revenge of the Sith. The blinding light actually symbolizes Luke (from lucere = light) and was deployed in a similar fashion to how the Starkiller explosion symbolized Luke in The Force Awakens. Also, the blinding light literally turned Jyn back into stardust. Now that's poetic!

    Krennic wanted to be close to the fire but ultimately found out that getting to close gets you burned.
     
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