Force trees in episode 8?

As long as if they didn't want to use holocrons because it had already been done, I don't think they go father and redemption either.

Tree is life, like humans or planets ... I really don't see the problem with using canon force trees.

 

When has a holocron quest taken place on the big screen?
The cartoons, novels/comics and video games have featured them, but not the movies.

They touch the tree of knowledge then the boy becomes the serpent, Snoke....
and the girl becomes a martyr like Eve's son, Abel.

And what about this Snoke made Anakin as a decoy, business?
RotS, anyone?

 

There is not just christians who have traditions with trees and you can search the signification of the symbolism everywhere on google.

BTW, your vision of the Genesis is funny.

I don't really understand why people says it's bad. Midichlorians are bad, ewoks are bad, the prequels are bad, everything is bad ...

Take what is given, it's one step to wisdom.

And I'm not in the story group, it's a quote from Greg Rucka :

"If he's trying to recover knowledge, you know, it's like I don't want to do a holocron; holocrons have been done, don't do that. And I could hear both Pablo and Leland groan, and they're like, 'Yeah not another holocron.' And we'd been talking a lot about Palpatine and really about how horrible he was, and I think it was Pablo who said, 'You know what, you should use the tree from the Jedi Temple, from the Clone Wars cartoon,' and I was like, 'Oh that's a fantastic idea. That's a fantastic idea.' And that's where it came from. It was quite literally Story Group saying, 'Use the tree!' and I said, 'Oh that's beautiful.' And that's such a beautiful metaphor, you know, and it's a perfect metaphor for what the galaxy is like after Return of the Jedi."
―Greg Rucka[src]

 

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Unidentified_tree-like_Jedi

Funny what you find on the Internets. A Jedi Tree that protects Luke's academy.

Could it be the tree trunk we saw in the leaked set pictures from Episode8 ?

That is the remains of that Jedi Tree that protected Luke's apprentices but was owned by the Kights of Ren and their chainsaws.

 

The more i read "force tree" the more cringe worthy it becomes. First, say out aloud: "force tree." now take some of the serious discussion about what it could mean and actually read it aloud. It sounds hokey. It makes for great discussion and debates about the force but as a driving or primary plot device it is so corny.

The midichlorians were an object lesson in what not to do with the nature of the force on film: don't over explain it. That's probably why they've barely been mention since ep1. The force is mystical, that amorphous quality was much of its appeal in the first place. The more explicitly the movie explains it, the less magical, and by extension, the less powerful it becomes. For example: if midichlorians cause force powers, why not just Create a device which negates or kills them in the body? Wow, that's a pretty clinical end for any space wizard jedi.

...what I'm saying is, although this rumor is widely refuted, i hope force trees do not become a factor any more significant than the force cave in ESB: a powerful, brief, mysterious plot device that we accept as viewers precisely because it is not expounded upon in a long winded exposition. Some mystery must be left to the force for many reasons, despite how much us die hard fans want every microscopic detail, and here is a few reasons why:

- the general audience. They don't care, and it turns then off. Excessive exposition on the inner mechanics of the GFFA was the part of the prequels that rewarded only us and bored general audiences. Force trees if used as described are a huge landmine with potential to do the same.

- over explaining the force limits its potential and binds all future plots to these limitations.

- these in depth explanations don't serve the scope of the star wars cinematic saga. These topics are best in the movies when they are touched upon and fleshed out in literate, comics and shows. The saga is at its best when the stakes are high and character drama is front and center.

Anyways. End rant.

 

my thoughts exactly. (you worded it better than i could of though lol)

i like the idea of an old tree being used like the cave from ESB.. i just don't want Doc Emmett Brown popping on screen to explain the physics of it all.

 

I think the Tree we see on set is Lukes Tree burned I think Ben burned it I think the temple at the top is Lukes but I dont know if it will be burnt or not they could cgi over it or it could be the temple was not burnt ....... What everyone is missing is the 2nd tree.... and that is the direct connection between Ben and Rey IMHO.....

 

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Please NO, why they want to go that way???????????

I don't wan't to see Force Trees or Jedi Trees, Star Wars is no place for Ents, those belong in Lord of the Rings and Scandinavian Folclore.

After the "Shattered Empire" comics i was VERY afraid that the New Star Wars Trilogy plot evolve around a force tree, after TFA release i was really happy until a couple of weeks ago when the shots and rumours about the jedi trees continued to appear. PLease just make them go away !!!!!!

BTW - An interesting remark, i actually prefer Kylo Ren's Helmet over Darth Vader's classic one, any thooughts????

 

Further thoughts.

Lucas for a long time had an idea of the Kaiburr Crystal - an ancient artefact that had force amplifying and healing properties. Splinter of the Mind's Eye - the first 'sequel' to Star Wars (by Alan Dean Foster who ghost wrote the original Star Wars novelisation) was basically the search for the crystal. Once however Lucas realised he had created a huge hit and would be able to fund a trilogy of movies, the Kaiburr Crystal got mothballed. There was initially some rumour that it would appear in TPM, but I don't know if that was just fan speculation or just an idea lost in the preproduction planning. Anyway Kaiburr crystals (note the change from one singular artefact) became incorporated into the EU through KOTOR and later Clone Wars cartoons and became far less powerful.

Perhaps the tree is just taking its place as the macguffin for the new film. Like the dagobah cave tree, but focussing the light side of the force in the same way the Kaiburr Crystal was intended to.

 

You mean northern pagans who made up their own traditions religion(s) like Kayin? Disciples of Moshiach, the servants of Hashem Adonai don't worship trees, no matter what google claims. Star Wars is turning into game of thrones in space... "lets go meditate in The force-woods, with the god-trees of good and evil."

lol That isn't MY version of Bereshit.... I didn't make Snoke the dark side whisperer who glowed as a shiny-hologram.lol. Now I see why they scrapped the serpent design.... all religious-hell would have broken loose.

Its not just bad.... its an epic fail. First midichlorians, now force trees.

People forget that Luke carried fear with him into that cave.... and what he saw, was merely a possibility. They act like, THE CAVE did it.... no. The force showed him what he could become if he succumbed to his fear. Always in motion the future is. No more. No less. The cave didn't show Luke anything. Nor did it tell him any of that, so trees are the Sequels version of midichlorians. Rubbish.

I read the quote before I semi-ranted. My point still stands. The insane clown posse Story Group has never seen a holocron up the big screen; just like the rest of us, so their fatigue garners no sympathy. They should have thought about that before making rebels focus on them so much.

If the god-trees don't kill my love of SW, I'm certain the lack of Plagueis will force-choke it to death.

 

Luke kneeling in front of the burning tree..

 

If the Force is everywhere is the galaxy, it could be in trees, water, chickens, I don't really see the point here. The Force is the Force and it manifests itself however it wants. The Force was there before the Skywalker and it wiil be there after. It's everywhere, everytime and for everybody.

Some trees are living for millenaries, they could be the witness of all humankind actually.

What do the people who hate this would have bring to the story instead ?

Ps : In my knowledge bereshit has nothing to do with the snake ( Snoke ), it means principle, it's now and then and timeless but it's hard to explain it in english for me.

 

Judging by the rocky landscape it must have been the only thing growing there. This must be second one we saw on Skellig.

 

You're correct, the force is the force, and while it resides in and around all things, including trees, it manifests itself in strict obedience to the writers of the script. I hope the writing is better than this bad rumor.

What would i bring to the story other than this rumor?

- answers to the many lingering plot questions from ep7, none of which seem to require a heavy handed book of genesis force tree.

- development of character ties and relationships.

- meaningful conflict

- backstory on the characters on- screen instead of two ham fisted allegorical force siblings, one of whom becomes...a tree! A tree. Yeah, forget learning more about kylo, rey or snoke. Tell me about the girl who became a tree, please.

That's just for starters.

 

You SHOULD mainly because it's been modeled after Vader so it would only be an improvement...as for force trees I could see it working in the sense that it enhances someone's abilities similar to kyber crystals
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I second @Lord of the Rens thoughts in here.
@Crusifix very good remark, might be on the money there.

I'm not a fan about the Force Trees but if Star Wars is getting a Yggdrasil i think we already found our Ratatoskr.............

 

Man, if I was Luke...
I wouldn't hide on some wet rock by the sea shore, I would be on Kashyyyk.
Consuming the bark/fruits/leaves/nuts/seeds of power from all THOSE trees.

And if I were Snoke, I'd be sucking down tree-sap like its Vermont-Maple syrup.
Heck, I'd bathe in it if I were a crippled mess like him.

Who needs the green goo of Dathomir's midichlorians in a bowl, when you can eat candied force-cashews?

 

Maybe Luke is more into fish & seafood

 

I'm beginning to smell the irony the retcon, Han Solo wasn't a Jedi because he didn't eat a balanced diet; not enough green tree-leaves and force-legumes. At least there's some hope for Finn, go vegan and the Galaxy is yours, man.

 

Well in ESB, Luke was eating what looked like Force sausages. Yoda introduced him to a balanced diet, made of Force Tree root soup and Force fish.