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Game of Thrones Series Creators to Write and Produce New Series of Star Wars Films

Discussion in 'General Movie Discussion' started by SWNN Probe, Feb 6, 2018.

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    KOTOR ?!
     
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    They. Are. Not. Writing. The. Stories.

    GRRM gave them the story points and they are trying to work around that.
    They are limited in what they can actually do.
     
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    Well by that logic if they are not writing the story why is KK hailing them as some of the best story tellers of our time. There work on XMen and Troy lol. Stellar works. Story notes can easily be expand into something awesome. They made the decision to fill out those notes with Reddit level fan fiction.
     
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    See, the problem with GOT is this: You've got an entire series full of subversions and tragedy. How do you end it?

    Like all storytelling, it's really tough to do anything fully original. And endings are one of the hardest things. Do all the main characters die? It's been done. Do the white walkers take over Westeros? That sounds less than satisfying. Was it all a dream? There's be riots in every street of the world.

    Eventually, you have to start winding the story down, and when that happens you're going to start either noticing some more familiar tropes than you're used to, or you're in danger of an incredibly unsatisfying ending. GOT opted for the former, and while the last season was hardly perfect, I think they at least tried to walk that edge carefully.

    On the reverse, consider what I find to be a surprisingly subversive ending:

    A Series of Unfortunate Events

    Basically, the entire series has the kids... well, experiencing unfortunate events. The narrator is never shy of mentioning that the kids won't have a happy ending, but when almost every character in the series is presumed dead in the second to last (penultimate!) book, there's not many ways for their lives to get worse in the finale. But even so, it still continues to be as bleak as possible, with the implied deaths of even more of their friends, and basically ends on a cliffhanger with the children heading off to sea, fates unknown (though some earlier passages in the series suggest at least one of them survives).

    Again, Lemony Snicket was never shy of mentioning the bleak trajectory of the series, but in the end it just felt cruel. After spending so much time with these characters, I wasn't necessarily expecting a happy ending, but some form of closure would've been nice. Instead, just a bleak nihilistic emptiness.

    So, maybe some people want that with Game of Thrones, and I totally understand wanting some tragedy in the end, but I'd like an ending with some actual substance too.

    edit: Just to be clear, I would agree that the latest season had its faults, and I'm not excusing them by saying "writing an ending is hard", but rather by saying that regardless of what the quality they're providing, it's absolutely true that in some ways they are going to have to fall into more familiar territory.
     
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    I think the bigger story here is that Iger apparently said we'll be learning who will develop, "One of the TV shows for the streaming service"... unless the person reporting either misheard/misquote.
     
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    Because they have told the story of GoT incredibly well. It's more difficult than you seem to be willing to admit to take the pages of a book series and coherently translate that to screen.
    Telling a story and writing one isn't the same.

    Lucas is a great world builder and story creator but is a fairly bad story teller.
     
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    Well, Jason Momoa's had experience playing a gun-slinging rogue in one sci-fi series already, so I'd say he'd be a perfect fit for this.

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    Bryan Fuller and Michael Green aren't really busy right now, are they? And after the killer year Michael Green had in cinemas (Logan, Alien: Covenant, Blade Runner 2049 and Murder on the Orient Express) I'd be down for any project he's involved in.
     
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    This news blew me away - mainly because it's yet another announced project that we're not going to see for a long, long time. It's super exciting, but what's the deal with all the long-term announcements? At this point I really wish there was no spin-off after IX because I want these new big projects to become reality ASAP. And I believe the spin-off idea is going to be ditched and we're going to get Rian's films and instalments of this new series interchangeably.

    "Film series" is an interesting way of putting it, but I think it's highly unlikely it means separate stories. They would say "a series of standalone films" if that was the case. So why not reveal that it's a trilogy, then? Maybe they want it to be ambiguous for the time being. If "series" means one story told over more than 3 films, then that's too much IMO.

    I think it's a pretty safe bet to say that either this or Rian's trilogy has to be set waaaaay in the past. Unfortunately for me, I think Benioff & Weiss' thing might be it. I said "unfortunately," because I really wanted Rian's trilogy to be about it. Who knows, though. Anything is possible.

    As for Benioff and Weiss, I like the choice. GoT is great storytelling, but as someone who hasn't read the books, it's hard for me to say how much credit should go to them instead of Martin. All I can say is that I dig the episodes where, from what I know, they went beyond the books. I've seen some BTS interviews with them and I remember liking what they had to say about the story they're telling. At this point I believe they will do very well writing Star Wars. I just hope they realise a lot of stuff they're doing in GoT won't work in Star Wars. ;)

    Oof... Exciting times ahead. Celebration 2019 is going to be EPIC.
     
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    The storytelling got bad when they stopped taking from the books. Seasons 1-4 had their faults but for the most part were really good adaptions of the corresponding books. But the moments they left that behind the show started to devolve into horrid plot lines with bad dialogue.
     
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    Great news ;);)..
     
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    I wonder if they plan on more (or less) than three films? Maybe "series" is being used in place of "Trilogy" or "Saga" to help differentiate from existing content.
     
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    Can someone take that Lando picture from Solo trailer and photoshop a sword or an axe in his hands? I think it's fitting for this thread.
     
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    Another Film for Sean Bean to bite the dust in :eek::D
     
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    Yeah, this is starting to feel like overkill now. Maybe it will shake out okay and the films will be good, but for now Lucasfilm is starting to feel like Oprah with this. "You get a Star Wars trilogy and you get a Star Wars trilogy and you get a Star Wars trilogy!!!!"
     
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    "They're focused on a point in time in the Star Wars mythology and taking it from there" - Now, maybe I'm reading too much into it, but it totally sounds like he has KotOR-style past in mind. I mean, it's the only scenario in which making a big deal out of a "point in time" makes sense. He specifically said "point in time" and not "part of the world" or "part of the mythology" or something like that.
     
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    There is no such thing as a story that will please everyone. There are plenty of people that think the GoT series actually improved upon the books by tightening the story and keeping them focused. You clearly seem to hate the show, and while that's perfectly fine, your opinion doesn't make them horrible writers. The only way Lucasfilm could choose creators that no one thought were terrible, would be if those creators were brand new to the business.

    B&W's new series of Star Wars movies may not be for you. Or you may like them even though you don't like Game of Thrones. Or people who like Game of Thrones may not like their Star Wars movies. Only time will tell.

    But there's no denying that Game of Thrones is a gigantic hit. It's critically acclaimed, and is very popular with audiences. This is a big get for Lucasfilm.
     
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    You assume too much. The Stark direworlf was my avatar on here for a year or more. I loved the show until D&D ran out of books to mooch off of. So these guys are not my idea of great storytellers by any measure.
     
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    So some takeaways:

    1) The name Obi-Wan was not mentioned at all in the press release. I'm not sure what the means...
    2) Not called a Trilogy or 10, 11 and 12. Just films, so it doesn't look like they'll do more character focused stuff (like Solo).
    3) No release date, likely means well past 2020.
    3.5) Why then do they announce these things so bloody early? To beat the leaks?
     
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