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Homosexuals in Star Wars

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Books & Comics + Legends' started by Voxx, Sep 28, 2015.

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    i Know i'm so emo...they have so many great moments they need to be supported
     
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    Lol I think (not sure if I'm serious) Poe and Finn (maybe Pansexual as most "gay" people in my life are), I could see Lando being Bi maybe, based on his flamboyancy and standing up to the face of evil . Hux could be, too. Especially Hux's parallel towards Hitler, who many historians believe might have been gay .
     
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    Finn and Poe :D(but im not gay)
     
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    As a bisexual I get strong feelings from Finn. Not sure why, because he also seems to have a major thing for Rey. I think he'd have better luck with Poe. Plus it'd be awesome to see gay represented in the SW universe.
     
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    If that happens that would be awesome. Also there is a whole ship now. It's called Stormpilot, which I support. :D
     
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    I can see that two, that look Finn gave him while he just walked away....................

    Again, a nice love triangle here to develop.......... Finn and Poe are a thing but Finn fancies Rey.
     
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    I just don't want it rubbed in my face .
     
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    My views are way more conservative, for the most part. I do not want to see any homosexuality in Star Wars. If society wants to push the agenda in other movies and tv shows, more power to them. I just don't want to see it in my favorite movies. I would be fine with no romance ties between the lead characters.
     
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    If it can be done organically inside the narrative without bringing the story to a pointless, uncomfortable halt like “Aftermath”, then I’m OK with it.

    If we’re supposed to believe ‘gayness’ in this far away galaxy is no big deal, then it should be presented as no big deal. Like being left handed. Unless it’s essential to the plot for some reason, then who gives a damn?
     
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    Aftermath did both the best and worst job of showing homosexuality in the star wars universe. When the "Two Aunts" were mentioned, it was perfectly normal and not a big deal at all. Latter on in the book, the story comes to a grinding halt because of how a character is introduced as homosexual. The first instance the reference to homosexuality was driven by the story, and in the second instance, the story was driven by the appearance of homosexuality.

    If a character being gay is part of the story, make them gay. If a character being straight is part of the story, make them straight. The important take away is dont push sexuality into places in story just for the sake of having it appear, but let the story itself dictate it. I personally dont care who is gay or straight in star wars, I just want the story to develop in the best way possible.
     
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    Maybe I’m misremembering, but I thought they were stated to be Norra's actual sisters. Admittedly, I wasn’t all that absorbed in the story so I’m probably wrong.

    ‘Lords of the Sith’, I think did a tasteful job. Moff Mors is presented as a woman depressed and nihilistic following the death of her spouse. The fact that the spouse was her wife was irrelevant. Not some crazy twist or awkward reveal, but a simple matter of fact that didn’t require expansion. It’s there, because . . . well, what difference does it make?
     
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    I don't think it's anything to be bothered about in any way. I would have already thought in such a hugely populated universe it was a case of all orifices are optional. Star Wars fans aren't 100% made up of heterosexual males so it gives fans even more characters to resonate with, which is always a positive thing. Just a shame it's taken until 2015 to be bold about such matters.
     
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    I'm shocked it's happening at all knowing Disney z
     
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    Being a bisexual myself...I honestly don't mind if we see some characters discovering themselves feeling attracted to the same sex or ...both sexes at the same time. I for one will be fine if Rey (can't believe I am going to say this) but here goes...what if Rey becomes either bisexual or a lesbian? Or Poe being bi or gay? Cause honestly, I really like Oscar and Daisy but I do like the bromance between Poe and Finn. I am already seeing so many ppl on tumblr who ship these characters but I've seen...fan 'art' that some have taken the shipping too far.

    So either way, it'll be interesting to see if we ever see these sort of characters where we all can relate to in some way or another. But as it stands, I already like how TFA has established the new characters where they are likable and or ones you love to hate. I could be less bothered whether the new characters change their sexual preferences or not at all to an extent. I like the fact that as a fan, even if in the movies, it turns out that Finn and Poe are just friends, nothing more, that doesn't stop me from imagining what if...or Rey not being a lesbian..but you know it wouldn't bother me much either way. I take most of the SW movies as they are today because to me, I wouldn't change much of anything for RotS, ANH, ESB, ROTJ and TFA. I never thought of the idea of Luke and Han having some affair Leia never knew about lol....but hey, anything is possible. They may have....and on that note, I am going to leave it at that. I don't want to be delving into these kind of thoughts right now lols.
     
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    Wow I forgot I posted here lols :p and yet here I am...


    Interesting article... though the people's comments are just....*shakes head* Seriously? :( I don't get all the hate against homosexuals and why people have the tendency to rip them apart and treat them with no respect like they're not human beings. We all live on the same earth to find our own meanings of life and if someone wants to destroy those meanings for someone else, well...they sure have too much time on their hands when a person's sexuality shouldn't be made into a huge deal. Anyway, I am not a hater as you can tell...sometimes what this world needs is a little something to bring it back to its senses. The world is evolving...you can't undo the fault's of society - just accept it as it is and if you can't....just move on.
     
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    This is exactly my issue with it. Star Wars, if a gay relationship is inserted, like one between Poe and Finn, would be getting used to make a political statement, and further an agenda that a huge chunk of Star Wars' audience don't share. Moral conservatives, people of faith, whole countries like China, those in the Middle East... these groups would be alienated, whether any of us agree with their viewpoints or reasoning or not.

    Star Wars was always meant to be accessible to and resonant with all people. Unlike Star Trek, it isn't social commentary. It's fantasy, it's classic good versus evil escapism. That's why it's always appealed to everyone around the world. That's what makes it special, and alienating a huge percentage of fans by trying to say "look everybody, these characters are gay and in love!" takes that universal appeal away.

    I have nothing against people with same-sex attraction. Want a character in Star Wars who happens to be gay? Go for it. But don't insert a whole on-screen same-sex romance when you know it's going to alienate a lot of people who love Star Wars.

    And the same would go for any character inserted into Star Wars whose faith or spirituality are analogous to a real-world religion. The character can be in the movie and have that characteristic without practicing that lifestyle on-screen where it will alienate people, or further the agenda of whoever is making the movie.

    Put the character in a book or comic and flesh them out. Give them their LGBT relationship, or their real-world-religion-like spirituality, but do it outside of the films. That way, the character can have their LGBTQ or religious backstory, and still have that characteristic on-screen, without it being discussed or shown on-screen to alienate an audience who doesn't share or approve of those lifestyles.

    I wouldn't want Atheists to have a real-world-analogous religion forced down their throats via the films, nor Christians to have LGBTQ lifestyles forced down their throats via the films.

    The films are for everyone. The thought of using Star Wars in such a way that would take it from being a source of unity to a source of division is heartbreaking for me.

    Characters can be done in such a way that people from either mindset can win. I hope this is how they do it. Because I'll probably be done with Star Wars if it gets used to force particular belief-sets down the audience's throat. Star Trek makes social and political statements. Star Wars' appeal is in its ability to resonate with people of all walks of life, all politics, all beliefs, all nationalities.
     
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    I'm not gay but...

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    I'll be pretty clear on my opinion about this. I don't hate homosexuals, I just disagree with the lifestyle. I know the media and the other people want everyone to think that anyone who disagrees with this, hate homosexuals and that's not the case.

    It's exactly the same with Obama. You don't agree with him, you must be a racist. NOT EVERYONE
     
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    My question would be; Why?

    Is the Story of Star Wars not enough anymore? Is Star Wars not popular anymore or what? I don´t see a reason for it...And I don´t see any hidden, cultural or any obligation to society ...it never had...and it never should be. It might have some impact on us but it always was a fantasy sci fi adventure...

    I have seen enough evidence, like Chuck Wendig, like SocJustice in Comics and their aweful writing....Not very subtle at any rate...

    I don´t or say they can´t and shouldn´t....Because at the end they do it or not.

    PS: If I am correct the EU already had some characters. It feels like they try to sell something old as new and progressiv...

    PPS: When Disney says it´s an obligation to do so or say "Hey its 2016" than they put up an agenda.
     
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