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How Rey can realistically beat Kylo...

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by TARS, Dec 12, 2015.

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will Rey shatter Kylo's blade?

  1. Don't think so

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  2. Maybe

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  3. I'd say the odds are good

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  4. What was the question again?

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  5. TARS should quit making polls

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  1. TARS

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    And not make Kylo seem like a chump. It just occurred to me watching the trailer again for the millionth time. In a "fair" fight it seems ludicrous that Rey could defeat Kylo without some serious help (not meaning Finn). But Kylo's saber in the trailers you can see is somewhat erratic and unstable (echoing the character) whereas Rey is using Luke's saber which is focused and stable. What if Rey simply holds her own, and beats Kylo because her saber is just too bad-ass compared to his. Imagine Kylo is using a home-forged ill-tempered sword while Rey is using the proverbial Honjo Masamune that just makes Kylo's saber shatter under the assault.

    This way also Kylo could still escape and save face because, you know, "chick came at me with the masumune, what the heck did you expect would happen?!" Then we have Kylo craft a new saber, a stronger saber, and one without the crossguard so we move on. It could work.

    Not really saying I think it will happen; though maybe?
     
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    she doesn't, if the rumours/spoilers are correct, other things intervene in the battle and it ends with no real conclusion other than reys "awakening"
     
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    Interesting theory, but I'm thinking she'll retreat and live to fight another day.
     
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    I think she'll hit Kylo in the face, but she'll lose.
     
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    Okay here's a twist; what if Rey punches Kylo in the face, but loses; then Kylo does his gloating and is about to finish them both off, and Luke shows up, turns on his green saber, and easily defends against Kylo's onslaught mocking him "Too slow" "You're extended" "Your thoughts are clouded" Then lays the smack down and Luke shatters Kylo's saber and then let's him run away. Rey says "Why did you do that, you could have killed him!" and Luke turns and says "Because I'm a Jedi" you got to admit that's pretty cool.

    If that's not cool then we could also have Luke force-grab his old blue saber and wield both his sabers at the same time, and just take Kylo down to chinatown. It could happen.
     
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    She will summon her mighty guuurrl power and defeat him that way. Kathleen Kennedy's voice will echo in her ears, inspiring her, like Obi Wan to Luke at the end of A New Hope.
     
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    Right it's like Transformers the Movie, and Rey force grabs Luke's saber, ignites it and KK's voice says "Arise, Rotimus Rey!" cue You got the touch, you got the power! So Rey is like all "girl power prevails!" and kicks girl-power-ass through the rest of the scenes, all the way up to Luke's sanctuary, "Girl power!" knocks on his door and shot switches to inside, as the door opens we see the back of Luke's head and Rey standing before him "I'm Rey, and I'm here to become your padawan!" and switch shot to Luke for his shocking 3-second JJ-inspired twist cameo:

    EXTERIOR: LUKE'S HIDEOUT (SUNSET)

    LUKE (laughing): I don't train girls! (he slams the door in her confused face)

    swipe to end credit fanfare
     
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    Then it should apply to Finn as well. Finn is using the same sword against Kylo. I think she will probably tap in to the force lying dormant within her and doesn't realize her own strength and probably catches Kylo off guard since he probably has never gone up against another force user. If she's a skywalker then she should have a strong connection to the force. I feel that Finn is force sensitive as well so perhaps he simply makes a wrong move and gets an arm or leg sliced off.
     
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    Rey isn't going to beat Kylo. And Kylo isn't really going to beat Rey.
     
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    Ah yes the new force ability from the Battlefront DLC: "My Baby Ghurl Power!" where Daisy transforms into Minnie Mouse temporarily and becomes invincible, its like Super Saiyan mode without the clenching

    but seriously.. if Luke doesn't intervene then this movie will be nowhere near the original three.

    We know the rest of you Disney apologists are perfectly fine with him not being in it for more than three seconds.. but me and Emperor Abrams here have standards when it comes to our favorite characters. You can't waste a fully abled Mark Hamill just because more fans like Han. George Lucas wouldn't have done that.
     
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    There are lots of assumptions about power level, training and general skill that get tossed around here. While I understand this it seems to be treated like the underdog can never win.

    Good fighters get ganged up on.
    People use tactics that over come skill and give them advantage.
    The enemy stops to gloat and gets beat.

    "The race is not always to the swift or the battle to the strong." Ecc. 9:11
     
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    Well before Rey enters the fight, she will take lukes lightsaber over her head and starts shouting "BY THE POWER OF LOBOTS EARMOFFS...........I GOT THE POWER"

    and she turns in to Suprem Jedi uber master LoBi-Wan Reyobi
     
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    It's a good point. Let me say again that I'm not actually saying I think it will happen, but someone once brought up not having Luke intervene or it would weaken Rey's character and I was of the mind that if Rey beat Kylo right off the bat it would make Kylo seem like a chump so it couldn't work. But then this struck me, and I suppose it could work so Kylo doesn't look like a chump, and Rey's victory wouldn't be incredulous. Kylo's saber is pretty sketchy-looking, and you can hear it fizzling and crackling; it's not too unreasonable to suggest it's possible Rey wins because she's just got the better weapon.

    About Finn, I'm confident he's Force-sensitive and on the Jedi path, but he looks so terrified in that final trailer shot (such a range in that one shot- Boyega does an outstanding job) that I wager he just doesn't even last long at all. If the story were going this route, then the saber naturally wouldn't just shatter Kylo's saber right off the bat, and Finn probably wouldn't be as 'anger inspired' as Rey (a lot of Rey's shots show clear anger); so while Finn may swipe a few weak swipes or blocks, it's Rey who really starts hammering with the saber and just destroys Kylo's saber in the process.

    Again, I think Luke will show up here and intervene in the fight; but here's an alternative.
     
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    I wouldn't look at the fear in his face as a reflection of how he will fight. It's a realistic look to a dark Force user; someone he most likely feared/respected while in the FO. I'm thinking once he starts fighting, he's all in. It's too early in his arc to be super confident about a confrontation of this type, but I bet JJ is going to give us an emotional build up to this fight that will pay off in the way the battle is waged. It's going to be brutal, and not over quite as fast as some people imagine. I'm willing to bet Finn gets a lot of respect from the fans after he goes down and his bond with Rey will be solidified... each of them supporting the other through probably their most life-threatening moment yet.
     
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    Oh myyyy. If Luke shows up I may scare the hell out of the theater audience because I won't be able to hold back my loud shout of YEAAAAAAA!!!! Then again the whole audience will probably shout out.

    Finn. Yes he does nail that small clip because he DOES look scared as hell and he damm well should be, they both should be. When Finn is wounded or if Kylo kills Han, Rey would indeed be mad as hell but I will say that, Boyega looks really pissed in the shot when he ignites his saber so he was pissed from the get go. Fear mixed with anger. I give you the benefit of the doubt on the saber being unstable. You may very well have hit that one on the head. OMG I cant wait. I still can't believe we are just 5 days out!!!! I look forward to conversating with you about this on 19th, 20th.
     
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    Maybe but if this was a real fight and we were standing to the side watching it, then as soon as I saw Finn's reaction as Kylo advances and ignites his saber I would immediately put all my money on Kylo because he's already won and probably wins in a few moves.
     
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    Continuing with my "Force Amnesia" theory, I think she reconnects with the Force and what she learned with Luke, unleashing hell on Kylo. He isn't defeated, but it is enough to stun him until something forces them to separate and Kylo escapes.
    However... I think we will discover (maybe not fully until EP8) that she actually called on the Dark Side, much like Luke vs Vader in ROTJ when he finally got the upper hand. She has had her first taste of dark power and it will be hard for her to give that up for the calm of the Jedi in her future training.
     
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    I think that it will be a total surprise attack or something.. more a lucky shot... Just maybe having her using the force would be surprising enough, after all I don't think that Kylo totally took her seriously up to this poitn.. my guess is that he is just after Luke's saber, and they are in the way...
     
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    My guess...

    It won't be a fight about who is more powerful, I think there will be some "connection" between Rey & Kylo that will make the battle somewhat less straightforward...we have been promised more emotive lightsabre duels that have some meaning to them and I think it will be Rey's words to Kylo that either stop the fight or distract long enough for them to escape.
     
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