how will poe react when he learns kylo ren is leia's son?

But he did know who he was before, as he may have known Luke or Leia and may have even been around when he turned. We don't know that Poe knew Ben.

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I am not sure the First Order knows who he is either, Snoke does. Maybe Hux does, but even Hux was surprised when Kylo Ren showed up without a mask, like he had never seen it off him before?

 

which raises an interesting question: why don't they?
instead, Snoke has deliberately suppressed it!

something he doesn't trust in his own apprentice? or in how the Republic/Resistance would react?

or is that another indication that the Resistance already know and have made sure it's not a major issue.
we have no idea what the Republic knows yet or what they would think of it.

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i think Hux knows.
when he calls Ren out for his "personal" agenda, i think he means in that moment to dig on him for it being a family issue more than merely a job.
also, again, if there is an actual "decree" that Ren's name not be spoken, then the FO obviously knows something is up with him.

 

Poe just joined up with Leia within the year before TFA starts. "Look how old you've become" Kylo says to Lor. It doesn't make that much since if it's been ~5 years since Ben betrayed Luke if that was the last time he saw Lor. Leia says (Poe Dameron #1) that she last saw Lor was when he wasn't quite as old...

 

I don't think he knows. If he did Ben would've gotten it from reading his mind

 

The Resistance doesn't know, which is why Chewie was shocked when Kylo took off his mask. Rey finding out about it in the end, is one of the reasons she and Leia hug at the end.

Come to think about it. Isn't it convenient that Leia sent everyone who now know Kylo is her son: Chewie, Rey and Artoo to go find Luke.

Meanwhile everyone else at the Resistance doesn't know.

(With the possible exception of Maz, who's elsewhere)

 

@LarsSkywalker I hope maz is dead,
If she's around in 8 people will expect a answer as to how she appropriated the Lightsaber, I would rather it remain a mystery. I don't think there will ever be a reasonable explanation that we get that would be better than our own speculation? I might be wrong.

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Family friend?

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@LadyMusashi
I think it is probably pretty widely known the estranged relationship between Luke, Leia and Anakin/Vader.
Kylo is his own man despite his progenitors. I think in the same way Luke and Leia's parentage is irrelevant, so to is there estranged offspring.
They as the last known force users hold more value as the figure heads of the resistance and Jedi order.

 

Do we know Chewie was shocked? It's hard to tell with all that fur on his face.

Leia didn't send Finn...or 3PO. I guess it's possible, though not likely, that 3PO doesn't know; he was with Leia constantly in Bloodline.

This is pretty much what Bloodline was about. At the time of TFA the galaxy does know that Luke and Leia are Darth Vader's kids--and, at least six years earlier, they don't care about "estranged." Almost everyone seemed to react with loathing toward Leia in the Senate because of her father. It's not clear how much esteem Luke is still held in generally--it does seem he's more a figure of myth than a prominent figure of respect and honor. It's not clear either how much respect the Jedi or Force use are held in at the time of TFA either.

So unfortunately, while it might be true that Darth Vader and Kylo Ren are the ones responsible for their actions, it doesn't stand to reason that others will see it that way and consider Luke and Leia untainted by their relatives.

 

interesting, I must confess I haven't read it yet, I'm not sure I like the direction though why set this up in the first place. they were both estranged from there father all there lives and Luke is credited with killing him?

 

I'm not sure why TPTB are going in this direction either. In Bloodline there's even some doubt in some sectors that Luke had anything to do with the demise of Death Star #1. (This is around 28 years after the fact.) It didn't seem to me to be widely known that Luke had anything to do with Vader's and the Emperor's death either. (Maybe someone else who's read Bloodline can help me out with that? It wasn't directly addressed as I recall.)

 

Ye, When Luke did the business there was only really Vader and Sidious. Its good that there trying to conceive a wider world view of these events. I just hope its handled with care and the focus is in the right place.

 

It's posts like this that make me wish we could give more than one reaction. Very well said!

 

I fail to see much strategic benefit for the FO making Ben's resistance heritage public knowledge at this time - especially with his incomplete training, penchant for tactical blunders and continuing struggle with "the light side". I could be missing something though. It's probably safe to assume that Leia, Poe, Snoke and Hux all grew up with an understanding and respect of security culture. With both sides engaged in militant action I think it likely that both the FO and Resistance hierarchies would be cautious in devulging sensitive information without good reasons for doing so.

 

i tend to agree with this. especially since technically Leia is not affiliated with the Republic and can be easily denied by her own people.
also, it's entirely possible that Ren's parentage could be a source of discomfort to the FO rather than a "victory". rather than tote him along as a prize, he might be regarded with suspicion; especially if he's only joined the organization in the last 5 years.

though i will say it likely wasn't apparent that Ren was such a mess prior to the events of TFA.
he seemed to have his buttons together at the beginning of the film and only gets unhinged after he loses control of the situation with BB8.
if he was erratic, i doubt it was ever to this degree before.

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you're remembering correctly ~ no one but the family knows that Vader was turned and Luke's role in the victory as far as the public is concerned is rather unclear. some people believe the emperor wasn't even killed.

 

I can't imagine Leia telling many people, I know it's canon she discussed it with Rey (novelization, but we don't know everything said). It was probably important because of her going to Luke. Chewie may or may have not known, I don't know if he would have discussed it, he probably would not. He did hesitate while they were talking, it's possible he knew something or was waiting for some kind of signal or word from Han. The scene where Finn goes to see General Organa, I have no indication that he knew that Kylo Ren of the FO was her son, and all that time they spent with Han, it probably was never brought up. I am not even sure he knew that she was Han's wife. That scene on Takonda, with Finn and Han, he didn't seem to know. I bet few know who he was at all.

 

I would have guessed that if leia trusted him on such an important mission at the beginning of TFA then he should at least have some sort of idea about Kylo or maybe just a hunch at the very least
.

 

this is my impression. he's not enough of a threat yet to be on any particular radar. he's focused on finding Luke so far as we know, so it's not like he's been out terrorizing systems like Vader was. and he's only been with the organization for, at most, 5 years.

Han knows well enough what he looks like, but that's probably because he and Leia have been paying attention. to anybody else who has occasion to even notice, he's likely just a mysterious enforcer. no more on the radar than even someone like Hux.

 

He didn't even know the FO were going to attack him. If you go by the prequel Poe comics, I don't think he is even aware the FO have a force user.

 

+Anyone wonder about Han recognizing his son all dressed in robes and a mask carrying Rey? He must have seen him before like that or knew by that point.