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I have come to terms with this movie, have you?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Lord Skywalker, Dec 16, 2015.

  1. Lord Skywalker

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    Hello everyone, so after sleeping on what those who have seen the movie have said (or presume to) I have come to terms with it. I realize many may not agree with what I am about to say and I'm ok with that, It may not be the movie we exactly want, but we should at least be grateful that we even get to have 6 movies in the span of a couple of years! Many of us may not be happy with
    Han dying by his sons lightsaber
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    very little Luke time
    but remember this is a Space Opera it is meant to have moments like it. We must remember this trilogy isn't about Luke, Leia or Han, they had their story in the OT, while yes it would be great to have them in a much bigger role, having them in such would take away from Rey, Finn, Kylo Ren and Poe IMO. As my name and pic suggests I am a HUGE Luke fan, and am excited about him in this new trilogy, but I understand he is not the main character of this trilogy nor should he, he fits the role of middle aged Jedi Master who has seen some stuff go down in his life. Yes this movie is looking to be quite dark and may be very similar to ANH, but I'd prefer the safe route (at least with TFA, not so much with VIII or IX) than to go in a completely new direction and risk losing what Star Wars is really about, I appreciate that J.J Abrams is paying homage to the OT with this movie and bringing Star Wars back after the PT's. I am sure Rian and Colin will go different routes with the rest of the trilogy and I am excited about that.

    After setting aside my initial backlashed feelings towards the film I can see it in a more level headed manner and appreciate what we have, we must understand this is the first movie in the trilogy, after tomorrow the countdown to Rian's Episode VIII will begin and that is something we can look forward to. I know this movie will split the fandom down the middle like the PT will, but it looks like this movie will be many times better than the PT's were and that is something we should be happy about, regardless if it happened the way we wanted to or not. I think we should all calm down a little bit before raging at each other about this movie, and I know there will be people who don't like the movie, and that is perfectly fine, no one likes a movie 100% nor should they, we should all be glad that Star Wars is back after 10 years (or 32 years if you're an OT purist). I would like to hear from you guys how you are potentially reacting to this movie.
     
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    I feel let down (from what I've read). But that's probably self-inflicted as the movie still sounds great in its own right.



    I'm thankful to have a movie over no movie, and I'm sure I'll enjoy it immensely. Just not as much as I could have?

    Time will tell.
     
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    I was always fine with it. I judge movies when i see them myself and i personally think the Han thing is needed to portray Kylo as extremely dark and ruthless. I also guess it was a condition for Harrison to agree to return. As for Luke, again i'm fine with it, they need to pass the torch to new people, Rey would seem pointless if Luke was just going to take over and smash the bad guys. I also honestly expect him to die too eventually and become the next Obi Wan.
     
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    LOL
     
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    Seeing the title I was expecting something along the lines of "I haven't seen this film but I have come to terms with it being utter blast". Thanks for being reasonable.
     
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    I disagree. There can/could be SEVERAL strong leads, or side-by-side action or a symbolic passing of the torch or whathaveyou. Not using Luke in 7 isn't out of necessity no matter how great the ending scene might be.

    Also, he can still bow out for the new characters via injury, death, or self-direction/retirement. So it's not as if he had to be sidelined.

    Having him in action alongside the newbies would have been a wonderful transition.

     
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    if what was leaked early is true imo such things your worried about op is it'll lead into the next two films. smart thinking if you ask me because why blow your load in the first film of a new trilogy? if im not mistaken i think kk , jj and kasdan kind of gave input to johnston and trevorrow of where the idea of the films will go. kenedy stated episode 8 shoots next month! i believe they figured everything out all ready in regards to episodes 7 - 9
     
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    I don't disagree, it's just how i think it will play out as the movies usually mirror in some ways. I think Luke will possibly smash bad guys in VIII and possibly die at the end somehow or maybe in IX. I honestly don't see him being alive by the end of IX.
     
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    i just get the feeling now that they didn't make TFA for people to like TFA but to make people want to see a Star Wars movie again. feels like a throwaway movie with hopes that episodes 8 and 9 will be the ones you watch over and over again. a whole universe to play with and they just tell us the same story we've already heard
     
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    I think it through like this
    We get Han in the first movie with a little Leia, then in second and third movies we get more Luke and Leia. So instead of the main OT actors in every movie they are spread out over the trilogy. They cannot be in the 3 movies as much because we have the new characters. The OT characters are passing the torch. So I am ready for silent movie cameo of Luke.
    I just want to have a big stupid grin on my face for most of the movie, just like when watching OT.
     
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    Exactly, the difference between this movie and ANH is that Lucas thought ANH would be the ONLY Star Wars movie he'd make so that is why it's set up like it is. this film will lead into future films much like ESB did into ROTJ. Some don't like that idea.
     
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    They couldn't 'lead to future films' without 'blowing their load'?

    This feels like when movies get split into volumes - like The Hobbit.

    On one hand, lots of material. On the other, possibly unnecessary.



    They couldn't add more material in 8, 9, and beyond if they gave fans a little more in 7?

    I believe that they could.
     
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    Fully agree with you on the rage part there...remember let's remember this day for what it is...a day to surely be remembered in this fandom and have a fun rivals above it....I myself have already reacted yesterday, but it's been weird for me...also, remember that it's not a space OPERA, but a space *SOAP* Opera .
     
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    im assuming luke will be a huge role in the next film because why else keep snoke in the shadows in this film if there isnt going to be something epic for him later on in the trilogy? since tfa is said to be similar to both anh and esb how do we know luke wont die similar to kenobi in episode 8 by snoke himself ? for all we know episode 8 will have luke push rey through the trials since luke is in that obi wan type role now.

    you also have to remember this is for the new generation of star wars charachters so it makes sense to have the focus more on them . star wars is a franchise where they can do so much with it where they can go 20 years into the futre or 100 years into the future because . it isnt limited to the extent like lotr hobbit hunger games harry potter ect. for franchises like the ones i named are simply split to add demand to movie goers. heck marvel is doing it with the next avengers. its one whole movie split into two films . believe it or not im suprised disney didnt steal a page from hobbits book and shoot 7 - 9 back to back at once.
     
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    I think everybody should go and watch the film for them selves. If you enjoy the film that's GREAT, if not oh well ( life goes on ) The point I'm trying to make is, don't worry so much what everybody else thinks. Do / watch what ever you what, in the end life is short , do all the things that make you happy while you can.

    P.s Don't worry so much what critics say, look at BLADE RUNNER it flopped at the box office and the movie critics give it a very negative review. Today it's a cult classic for many sci fi fans. Like me. = )

    May the Force be with you... Always.
     
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    All i'm gonna say is: if Luke has no dialogue and no fight scenes with anyone? Massive disappointment and the trilogy will not be going in a direction to please the fans of 25 and older. Which is a shame because he was the JEDI PROTAGONIST of the original trilogy, do people forget this? Luke is the only official Jedi in the galaxy and therefore should be seen displaying his abilities, Rey and Finn are newbies.

    Another thing.... no planets from the the previous trilogies? No real references to the prequels aside from flags in a five second shot? I hope none of these things turn out to be true. Otherwise Lucasfilm is trying way too hard to pseudo-reboot things. Hopefully people were just trolling me with this info.

    If anyone replies to this with spoilers.. please use the spoiler tags, thank you
     
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    You haven't even seen the movie yet lol. I think fans are starting go a little bonkers with this destined to be disappointed nonsense. I've seen jedi council colliders non spoiler review and they really liked the movie, their expectations were probably much higher then mine are. Calm down! It's not the next coming of Christ. Let's say you are let down? We have a countless number of new films to look forward to. Hope is not lost.
     
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    And this is what I was afraid of.. a Prometheus situation. Lots of questions without quite enough answers, feeling like the first act to something rather than its own contained story.

    Again, I may feel differently when I see it but my expectations have been lowered at this point. I'm glad I stuck around and didn't go into the movie dry.. otherwise i'd have been pretty bittersweet coming out the cinema.
     
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    With all due respect, you don't speak for all fans aged 25 and over. I'm a 32 year old fan, and I have no issue whatsoever with Luke having a minimalist role in this one. Patience.
     
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    Completely agree.
    I don't want them crowbarring in a Luke fight scene just for the sake of it. It needs a valid reason to happen.
     
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