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SPOILER Implications of Last Night's Episode

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Rebels' started by cawatrooper, Feb 27, 2018.

  1. cawatrooper

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    *Episode. Not "Episoded" :p

    So, obviously this thread is full of spoilers. You've been warned!


    So, as far as I can tell, it's now possible to change the events of the past via a Jedi temple. True, Ezra did destroy the one on Lothal according to Rebels Recon, but that doesn't mean similar mechanisms don't exist.

    What interests me is this:

    I like the gritty bleakness of the sequel trilogy, but it almost seems like they've gone out of their way to create sadness in the universe. Han and Leia having broken up, Luke living a hermit's life and eventually dying, R2 being powered down for most of TFA, a new fascist empire rising, the Solo child having fallen to the dark side, the Resistance essentially being snuffed out... most of these things I've just attributed to the fact that obviously we needed a sense of conflict in this trilogy. "Happily Ever After" isn't a really compelling arc, after all.

    But what if LFL has let everything go to hell because in the end, that can be undone? What if Rey or Kylo Ren could use a similar mechanism to Ezra to right the wrongs of the past?

    This would be in pretty direct conflict with the "Let the past go" theme of TLJ, but we've already seen the series retract another theme from that movie, in the end of the Jedi.

    Plus, this would hardly be the first time an expanded media outlet was used to test the public waters for something in Star Wars that would eventually get a wider release. The expanded view of the Force, particularly the grey, was used in a lot of media before TLJ, especially Rebels.


    Alternatively... if both Ahsoka and Ezra are alive, could they possibly travel forward to help the Resistance in EpIX? That would conveniently answer the huge question of why they're not around during the original trilogy pretty well.

    Lots of wild speculation here, and I'm well aware that the most like explanation is that Rebels is canon but probably won't have much of an impact on the movies, but I'm curious to what you all think about the implications that these episodes could have on the franchise as a whole.
     
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    It's not possible to change past from a Jedi temple, but from the place between the worlds, open to you by Mortis gods. It is clear that while the Jedi knew about them (archives are mentioned), Lothal temple was unique - and now destroyed. And Ezra had to let go of the past - Kanan - to ensure survival of everyone else and by stopping Palpatine, ensuring that he could be, eventually defeated. Notice how Ahsoka didn't return to the Rebels after finding herself back in Sith temple? She didn't come back as not to change the past. If she comes back in the last episode (I doubt it), it would be only after the events that led to her salvation played out. Letting go and accepting (learning) from the past was the last lesson for Ezra. And the lesson Rey learns by the end of TLJ. This is not going to be some launching pad for rewriting the SW history.
     
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    She can't comeback IMO because then Filoni would actually have to create an end to her story, something he seems entirely adverse to doing.
     
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    That too. ;)
     
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    Not sure why we're all with the spoiler tags when the thread is marked as spoiler but anyway
    I think she will come back - even though Ashley inferred she didn't on Rebels Recon but probs a misdirect - right at the very end and her and Ezra go somewhere away from the main action of the OT
     
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    I'd love to see the two of them together.

    And yeah, if someone scrolls down this far past all these spoiler tags, they kinda have no one else to blame at this point... :p
     
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    Cause like the episode title, it's a spoiler between a spoiler. :)
     
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    The only reason for the episode was to bring Ahsoka back to life. She didn't even offer any new information, just the obvious about Kanan. Yes I already figured out he sacrificed himself and turned into a wolf. There is only one more hour left of the show, with much more story to tell They just had to bring her back for the sake of it.
     
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    Eh, I don't know.

    Maybe they're going somewhere with this. I hope so, at least.
     
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    Well I think it would certainly be stupid to bring her back only to kill her off again. All this waiting just to kill her off? I don't think so.
     
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    I don't think they'd kill her off.
    It's more of a factor of whether she'll be on the show again before the end, or if her story on Rebels is just finished, and Pablo is saving (both literally and figuratively) her for something else.
     
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    My prediction for the last two years - they go through the Galaxy to find and save force sensitive children, and/or help Luke after epVI events
     
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    Im wondering if this time travel thing is setting up anything for IX? I would hate for this to only be wasted on one episode. I mean, concenidentaly IX's script is finished.
     
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    Pretty much Rebels is turning into act II of the Ahsoka saga.

    Oh and an implication we need to really talk about is JJ "OH NOW I HAVE TIME TRAVEL" Abrams
     
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    Where they are going is the next series. Ahsoka was thrown through a portal into the next cartoon series. Ahsoka forever.
     
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    *checks JJ's past involving time travel*

    Dear god I hope this is a one off.
     
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    But when these episodes were being filmed the editing process for TLJ wasn't even finished.
     
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    But we don't know how much of Colin's original script was saved. It seems like a waste if they just use it for one episode of Rebels. At least the implications of what time travel could do.
     
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    Just wanted to join the cool club with the Spoiler tags
     
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