SPOILER Implications of Last Night's Episode

There’s so much better stuff to discuss. For instance:
-At some point the Mortis Force Wielders were on Lothal. Were the Loth-wolves their creation/pets?

-Was Palpatine attacking from the Jedi Temple on Coruscant? Is it possible there’s another mural/portal there? When was he attacking them (they were wandering through eternity, he could be attacking from any point in time between learning of Ezra Bridger and dying on the Death Star).

 

I think this will eventually factor into live action. Probably not IX but eventually.

I feel like a major seed has been planted.

 

Yeah, you don't just introduce something like time travel just for one obscure episode.

 

Yep- as far as the films go, (at present) we have to consider the “films only” audience- which is a much greater number than our “pitiful little band”.

(The “Ahsoka-who?” crowd brings in $$$. They must be handled with care. ...Baby steps.)

 

They need though to start using their alien characters as actual characters and not just background noise. It's frustrating that the animated series' has had more freedom with this aspect then in the films.

 

First of all, what we've witnessed wasn't time travel. The world between worlds is a means of glimpsing every moment at once, hence the many quotes we hear.

Yes, Ezra, influences events a bit by pulling Ahsoka through, but in the end she returns to Malachor. The only thing that was changed, was that Ahsoka's view of the universe/ the Force might be a little big broader.

Again, no time travel, just two (Force-wielding) characters ending up in this place.

For those of you comparing this to Lost, meant as a joke or not:
JJ didn't introduce this, you have to knock on Carlton Cuse and Damon Lindelof's door for that.
That said, what Lost did with time travel, i.e. some characters actually travelling through time, ended up being similar to what happened here with Ezra and Kanan.
Lost had the concepts "dead is dead" and "whatever happened, happened". This is basically what Ahsoka says to Ezra.

So no, I don't think time travel will be introduced in Star Wars.

However, we know for a long time that the Force will let you see things that happened:
Luke having visions of Cloud City in ESB, the emperor - wrongly - prediciting the end of the battle of Endor, Anakin seeing things before they happen during Podraces, or him having visions of his mom and Padmé, etc.

I think this World Between Worlds merely is a physical manifestation of showing the above visions.

Also, we know for a pretty long time now, TPTB greatly expands the concept of the Force. This is just another example.

Linking it to epIX and other (live action) projects; no, again, I don't think time travel will be introduced. This is just another way of easing us into this new era of Star Wars, where the Force is much, much more than lifting rocks with your mind.

Thanks for reading.

 

That's more or less what I meant by from the Jedi Temple. My understanding is he converted the Jedi Temple into his palace and regularly descended into the Sith Temple beneath.

I also wonder if perhaps there's another mural/portal on Dagobah helping Yoda gain access (not direct physical access but spiritual access, just like Ezra going to the temple on Lothal and communicating with Yoda there). Might be associated with the Snake constellation you can see in the background.

 

Holy awesomeness. This story is coming together beautifully.

One BIG issue.

This just completely pooped all over Rian Johnson's and Luke Skywalker's bed. Bear with me, here is my logic:

If this is canon, which it obviously is . . . In TLJ, Luke Skywalker was at the original Jedi Temple which would have a portal itself. In the 30 years of Luke looking for wisdom such as this he was never able to access this phenomenon. Sabine and Ezra did it in minutes.

Don't get me wrong, this was a great idea and very good execution by Filoni. But it completely minimizes Luke and doubles down on the Rian Johnson vision of Luke being broken and far, far worse - average.

Major disservice done to Luke by Rian Johnson and Filoni just salted that wound like no other.

No offense, but Ezra shouldn't be able hold Luke's jock strap.

 

(I read some of these ideas elsewhere but i cant remember if it was on here or reddit so I'm sorry if i didn't credit someone)

Now I'm not sure if this is official but it seems that this gateway predates Jedi and may have been used by the Mortis Gods or others to communicate or traverse the universe. I don't think the Jedi built it but were instead attracted to its power and built their temples. So maybe on Ach-to there was not a gateway because Achto was not connected by the Mortis Gods (or whoever built the "World Between Worlds") So perhaps the gateways were not available to Luke on Achto if they were I would assume the he would have the ability to open them.

 

Luke disconnected himself from the Force following the misadventure if Ben, so even if there's a portal on Ahch-To he wasn't able to open it. Or maybe he opened it in the past, decided that this kind of power is too dangerous and closed it off immediately.

 

If there was a gateway on Achto then sure this is a possibility as well

 

Other than paying off the Minister Too reveal of a secret project, I tend to agree that not much is progressed, other than resolving Ahsoka. However, I really liked the cleverness of how they wrapped that up. Some will consider it a cheat, but I like that they did come up with something that sidestepped "who should win between them".

Yeah, you don't just introduce something like time travel just for one obscure episode.[/QUOTE]

There are so many things that are brought up in the secondary media for Star Wars that don't end up in the movies, why would you think this is different?

 

Ok, here's my version of what would happen if there actually was a portal on Ahch-To:

Rey goes back to Ahch-To. Finds a portal. Goes back to stop Luke from attempting to kill Ben. She succeeds and Luke doesn't try and kill Ben but tries to talk to him. Ben still turns on Luke and destroys Temple. Rey realizes that she cannot change the past and destroys the portal. Force Ghost Luke appears to Rey and he tells her that only Ben can redeem himself, but she must face him again with the goal of defeating him, not turning him. Luke also explains that all other portals were destroyed. There was one on Alderaan and one on Hosnian Prime!

 

I like it.

 

It is a weird choice to chose the island of the 1st jedi temple with the purpose of disconnecting himself with the Force.

Absolute non sense but whatever.

 

He was planning to destroy what was left of the Jedi there.

 

But that's the point. He wanted to end the Jedi Order in the place it was born. It's not about making sense, it's about symbolism. Besides, that's just a digression. Let's move back to Rebels, shall we?