SPOILER Implications of Last Night's Episode

What's the difference between the cosmic force and living force?

 

Alright friend, what should we call the act of traveling back in time and changing past events other than "time travel"?

 

Because, it was more about teaching Ezra to let go of everything he fears to loose. They also go back to their 'time periods'. Also we hear immediately after the fight, "Obi-Wan once thought as you do" and "you don't know the power of the dark side." Implying whatever happened didn't change the events of the movies.

 

Thanks for the response!
Yeah I understand (loosely) the what, how and why.
I was just curious what the poster who claimed traveling into the past wasn't "time travel" thinks it should be called instead.

What a strange thread indeed.
Random peripheral info around episodes already aired get spoiler tags but not dialogue from unreleased episodes?!

 

I've been thinking it over again and again and I just can't get passed how dumb it was. It was such a cheap way of bringing her back and a compete and total cop-out of the Season 2 finale. It also robbed Ahsoka of a fitting end to her story. I love the character but her dying by Vader's hand should have been the only way for her character to end. I love Rebels, I love Clone Wars, I love Ahsoka and I love Filoni but I just cannot get behind the introduction of time travel in Star Wars. To me it felt like Filoni was simply incapable of letting his prized creation go and went all David Lynch-y in an attempt to keep her going. I sincerely hope we never see time travel again in Star Wars. I fear that the introduction to time travel could be used as a way to weasel characters into surviving even when it ends up being bad storytelling.

 

As if there isn't enough plot devices in SW to keep past protagonists exerting their will posthumously!
And people still get up in arms about Luke dying in the franchise where literally no neo-Jedi's ever really gone.

I'm not sure about how I feel about Force time travel yet although every Force Ghost is doing it in a way.
I don't mind that Force concepts get expanded with canon or The Force being used as a plot device.
I just wonder how much is necessary and how far these plot devices can scale up before they lose their edge.

Spoiled me!
No big deal of course.
That wasn't the issue, I know "the rules" and take the risks.

My point still stands that this thread is strange - finding background info that spoils nothing in tags and not dialogue that can actually spoil plot points about upcoming episodes for viewers.

 

Does anyone find it strange that we didn't hear Luke? I mean, no, "NOOOOOOOOO!!!" or "THAT'S NOT TRUE THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!"Seems like a strange omission? They're are Luke references, sure but it makes me wonder if it's so much bigger.

 

Super Like.
Dear Disney
Let Ashoka live
Love, A fan

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I have to agree. Only 2 jedi left seems too overacheived on the Empire's part.

I hope for Ashoka to realize that she will do more good behind the scenes. Like the Inquisitors for the Dark, she is searching for force children for the Light. To protect them.

In regards to Yodas and Obiwans conversation about "only hope". I think they were too invested in the Chosen One prophecy to see the actions of a rogue force protector like Ashoka take down Vader and the Emperor. Plus she already failed to stop Vader once at that point.

I want her to have a stash of force wielders that Luke got to recruit from when he restarted the New Jedi Order. It would bring Ashoka an opportunity to be introduced on live screen. Even be the new teacher to Rey. Secluded like Yoda was on a force powerful planet with a community of meditating force users.

I can still dream.

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I have to agree. Only 2 jedi left seems too overacheived on the Empire's part.

I hope for Ashoka to realize that she will do more good behind the scenes. Like the Inquisitors for the Dark, she is searching for force children for the Light. To protect them.

In regards to Yodas and Obiwans conversation about "only hope". I think they were too invested in the Chosen One prophecy to see the actions of a rogue force protector like Ashoka take down Vader and the Emperor. Plus she already failed to stop Vader once at that point.

I want her to have a stash of force wielders that Luke got to recruit from when he restarted the New Jedi Order. It would bring Ashoka an opportunity to be introduced on live screen. Even be the new teacher to Rey. Secluded like Yoda was on a force powerful planet with a community of meditating force users.

I can still dream.

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Loving this.

Havent seen the episode yet. But great GIF. Cant wait to see it.

I would call it a time portal more than time travel from what info the GIF provides.

 

So sorry if I spoiled anything!
Keep an ear out for the sound design when you get around to the episode - particularly during combat.
It's as good as you'll ever hear in TV today.

Fair call.
I've since been doing some reading in the Rebels threads and have started to get my head around the nuances people are seeing in the use of this device in the GFFA.
I still feel it takes some generous manipulation of nomenclature to claim it isn't time travel (until I see it proved otherwise of course).

Maybe it's time for a game of name that Force verb.
I'm collecting some roots to play with...

• hora – period of time (Greek)
  
• timon - time (Proto-Germanic)
  
• dā - to divide (Proto-Indo-European)
  
• manus "hand" (Latin)

 

Force Horachron

 

Oh yes that is AWESOME!!!!
May the force be with us on this one

 

Filoni should get a movie. He does more in 20 min than all the new trilogies.

 

Ridiculous episode if you ask me... pretty arrogant of Dave Filoni pushing in this crazy stuff with time travel, and characters like Ezra visiting high level alternate plains of reality, far beyond anything we ever see in the films, and from characters/people who are supposed to be some of the most powerful and important in the Universe.

Making up all this over the top stuff just to save Asohka, then the whole temple is destroyed... right... So this temple has been sitting there for countless millennia, and this is the first time the portal has been closed, and the whole temple just collapses? All for the sake of a 20 minute episode and Filoni saving his precious character he created... What is that all about.

Between the talking and hyperspace traveling wolves, this over the top, unnecessary, and "un-Star Wars-ey" (why does Filoni always put in these huge over the top plot events that overshadow ever seen in the films, thus making these stories/episodes seem absolutely ridiculous and unrealistic for the Star Wars universe).

There needs to be someone who really and truly understands Star Wars to the extent of George Lucas in-charge, because it is clear the "Lucasfilm Story Group" has no idea, or has no power to veto bad decisions, hearing stuff like "Dave Filoni should be in-charge of Star Wars" from people like Kristian Harloff (who I respect his opinion and tastes on a lot of Star Wars topics and matters) makes me cringe... I could do a far better job honouring the lore that George's 6 films created without letting pride and arrogance lead to creating stuff just because you think "it would be cool".

Pretty disappointed with how these last few episodes have twisted and IMO tarnished the Star Wars lore/mythos.

I know many won't agree with me but I'm just sharing my honest impressions after just watching Episodes 10-14 in one sitting.

 

Hmm, I’m not so sure this claim is the most modest or humble reinforcement of that declaration, but I like your passion

 

Mate, I think you're letting your pride in arrogance get in the way...

 

Asserting a fact is very different to putting your own feelings and spin on something that should be above your own meddling... for me Star Wars is practically holy scripture and to mess with it in ways that conflict with it's true core and integrity is out of the question. You guys don't seem to be able to grasp that and are only reading into my wording literally?