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SPOILER Implications of Last Night's Episode

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Rebels' started by cawatrooper, Feb 27, 2018.

  1. eeprom

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    I thought this was a cultural thing, not biological. "Lords of the Sith", I think.
     
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    Could be. I haven't read that in a while.
     
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    I for one loved the ending. I loved seeing Ahsoka back and wearing Jedi robes. As someone else has mentioned, the idea that only two Jedi survived isn't believable, and, if I remember correctly, there was always the idea that Jedi did survive, but they went into hiding, some, if not most of whom were eventually murdered by Vader. So it's nice seeing Ahsoka survived the dark times.

    I hope we get to see her live on screen. I don't know about others, but I'd prefer an Ahsoka film to a Boba Fett one. I also have a feeling that all of this will be tied in to Palpatine's contingency plan and the goings on beyond "known space." Exciting times. So much possibilities.
     
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    Snoke = Ahsoka. It has to be. It makes too much sense. Ah-Snoke-A, I solved it guys. You're welcome.
     
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    I always thought that Snoke looked quite feminine.
     
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    It’s his love of tasteful gowns I think.
     
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    Filoni-ing intensifies.
     
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    Wow, still speechless after seeing the 2 episodes before the finale. I never wanted time travel anywhere near Star Wars but what Filoni did was... masterful - executed in a perfect manner. Also, I am pretty sure all the mortis/temple shenanigans were a one-time thing. Never expected such an outcome, it must have been planned all along, from the very start of the show, the transition (you know what I am referring to, just want to avoid spoilers:)) was way too smooth, all the pieces came together so beautifully. I wish the same planning went into the new trilogy so the narrative could be more... cohesive if you will.
     
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    Buddy, first read the rest of a post, not just the first sentence. After that, if you don't understand something or don't agree, I'll happily discuss these things with you.
    But posting a funny Obi-Wan pic as a response and in another response saying you don't actually understand the concepts presented in the episode isn't the way to go.
    MTFBWY
     
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    That might've been me, and also keep THIS little nugget in mind; That last scene with Sabine and Ahsoka (if the epilogue by Sabine is to be concurrent with the scene) may VERY WELL be after the Galactic Civil War, and the last battle....was Jakku....and AFTER ROTJ.

    Here's Ahsoka's story from WP:

    With THAT being said, if they are going to find Ezra, and he is indeed still alive, then Yoda and Ben being the only two Jedi left in ANH....is flatly WRONG! :)
     
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    What on Canto Bight are you on about?

    Your contacts at The Post-Reading-Police are grossly misinformed!
    Quoting one line =/= reading one line. :rolleyes:

    FYI, I only said "loosely" understand to Andrew because I understand as much as it is possible to understand the deliberately mysterious forces in magical fiction!

    There were words between those pictures too.
    I'm still waiting on what you would call instead the act of traveling back in time and changing past events other than "time travel"? ;)
     
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    S'all good man, didn't want to make a whole issue of it :)
    (Btw, that James Franco gif is awesome.)

    Anyhoo, back to The Void. To me, it wasn't time travel, because no character actually travelled through time.
    Yes, Ezra saw something that already happened and influenced that moment, but he did so from within The Void. If he had entered that portal, actually making himself part of the Ahsoka/ Vader fight, stayed there for a while and afterwards returning to Lothal, then yes, he would have travelled through time.

    The point I'm trying to make is that from the characters point of view they didn't travel through time. At the moment Ezra and Ahsoka interact in The Void, for both it's the present. Only we, as the viewer, know there's a time difference. Ezra knows this too, because his present happens to be at a moment after Ahsoka's present.

    The Void, to me, is some sort of quantum world, existing at all times. But because nothing in the past has been altered, and both characters end up in their own present, no time travel was involved in this episode.
     
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    I'm glad you're a good sport.
    My last post was meant to be entertaining but upon re-reading it just sounded rude! :rolleyes:
    Force-Time-Reach?
    Oh, I get you.

    (I was already prepared to give SW fans a pass on this just due to the convoluted cosmic nature of the GFFA! :confused:)
     
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    I think the Storygroup will refrain from actual time-travel, i.e. actually changing stuff in the past, thus altering the present. If they did, those folks holding a "remake the prequels" petition would have a field day, not realising everything that's been released since then, logically has been influenced by those films. (r2-d2)

    Anyhoo, in the Rebels Recon for that episode, they talk about what they were trying to do with The Void; more or less visualizing the scope of the Force.
     
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    I guess... from a certain point of view.

    Even if Yoda knew about Ezra, though, the kid is clearly occupied elsewhere. Think of it this way- let's say you work at a company as an IT tech, one of maybe two at the company. All of a sudden, your only other coworker disappears off the map- no one knows if he ran away, was kidnapped, fell into a black hole, etc. He's just gone.

    Now you're the last IT guy at your company... at least until he comes back, or someone else is hired (and trust me, as a guy in IT, that may be an even bigger responsibility than being the last of the Jedi).

    It's not like Yoda said Luke is the "Last surviving Jedi", or even the "Last of the force users." Just the "Last of the Jedi", the last who could currently take up the mantle of the old order and use it for good against the Empire.
     
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    Ahsoka doesn't count because she flat out states that she isn't a Jedi. Kanan may very well have been a Jedi after his experience in the temple (that was described as sort of an initiatory moment). I would say Ezra's Jedi Status is in a gray area, similar to Luke's. In the exact same conversation where Yoda calls Luke "the Last of the Jedi" he also says the Luke isn't a Jedi yet, and that he has to confront Vader first. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Yoda says "the last of the Jedi will you be," meaning that Luke being the Last Jedi didn't happen until after his confrontation with Vader. I'd suggest that Ezra was in a similar place. A Padawan? Maybe. But he wasn't a full Jedi yet, and won't be until he passes his final test.
     
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    Makes sense.

    Also, we know that Jedi is plural.

    Also also... I guess Yoda never specified when Luke would be "Last of the Jedi"... ;)
     
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    I've been wondering about something- was the location where Ezra sees his parents somewhere in the past or some parallel dimension/timeline? His parents seem to even recognize him when they see him though he has grown older and changed his hairstyle.
     
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    I think that's the World Between Worlds place.
     
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    I agree....but I was wondering if it just leads to moments in the past or does it also lead to parallel realities.

    Ezra's parents recognizing the older version of him and even looking proud when he decides not to join them makes me think the world between worlds is not just about time travel to the past but another reality where Ezra's parent survived the Lothal prison break.
     
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