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Intriguing new character named Aya

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by McDiarmid, Nov 19, 2017.

  1. Pawek_13

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    That's not a great story. If this was true, it would turn Luke Skywalker into a Woody-Allen-level creep.
     
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    Um... maybe everyone commenting in this thread should read the book? At no point is there any romantic subtext between Luke, and a girl half his age. Luke goes to their planet, learns about The Tide from Aya, and leaves telling her he'll continue to journey and find new ways of thinking about the Force. Anyone looking for anything more...

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  3. McDiarmid

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    Consistency (and persistence in the book!) of Aya's intrigue continues until the very end of this epic book.

    Ship finally arrives at Canto Bight.

    Ship crew ,who befriended her as a stowaway ,and already know what (whom) she is looking for, waits for her reaction outside the landed ship.

    Moment of silence ,while Aya tries to sense Luke's presence.

    Than she says, (to crew's disapointment), that she feels Luke isn't at Canto Bight.

    They are dissapointed,but she comforts them,makes ferewell,in a style"Trust the Force, ..Mey the Force be with you".

    Aya is than described walking away and dissapearing in Canto Bight crowd,and the last words about her are description of her plain white robe.

    So,that's in the book,she is definitely going to find Luke.


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  4. McDiarmid

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    Here is another aspect of Importance of Aya story.
    Aya is putting in to a trouble a random - Rey theory.


    "The elder continued in a dreamy tone, as if speaking to herself more than to Seeker. “The Tide is a powerful force, and it can drown you as well as uplift you. Long before they came to Lew’el, our ancestors had learned how to ride the Tide. For a time they were the brightest stars in the galaxy, drawing the interest of those who loved power and sought my ancestors’ aid in their quest for more of it. Some of my ancestors succumbed to the temptation and believed that they could master a force that sustained the very fabric of existence; others believed that it was impossible as well as morally repugnant to try to turn the Tide, the ether that connects everything to everything else, into an instrument for domination. The war between them brought great suffering and devastated a thousand worlds before it finally burned out. The survivors came to Lew’el to hide, vowing never again to allow knowledge of the Tide to be used to pervert it.”


    Aside from a glimpse of early galactic history, the biggest revelation here is a village founded by Force sensitive human refugees has maintained that sensitivity for thousands of years. While we’ve had several known related Force sensitives and references to the Force being passed down family lines.

    This is the first time we’ve seen direct evidence of it being maintained in population over an extended period of time. From this we can infer children born to Force sensitive parents have a high chance of being sensitive themselves.

    That by the logic makes random Rey less probable, since new canon obviously inclines to ancestry born Force sensitivity.


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    Everyone is born with the force. People who are strong in the force have strong force sensitive kids. But at the same time, some people are born with a greater force connection than their parents.

    So no, it doesn't damage Rey Random whatsoever.
     
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    Rey random is absolute redundancy whose only purpose would be to partially debrand Skywalker saga in order to make quick(no time) and superficial (not time), and morally corrupt (Kylo is mass murderer) romance phantasmagoria known as ReyLo possible .


    so, I admire ReyLo enthusiasts but by now they should have understand...

    ....
     
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    lol

    And the reason for her being a Skywalker?
    "Because it is...uh...called the Skywalker Saga and there was a familial reveal in the middle film of the OT".

    Solid.
     
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    Err... correct me if i'm wrong. But don't those crazy kids battling unimaginable odds successfully navigate the asteroid field and come out the winners in the end?

    Gr8 analogy m8
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    Ok, I'l give a chance to your Random Rey( other word for ReyLo) hope guys for this 3 weeks, I have no more heart to make deals in absolute.

     
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    StarWars.com: Who are some of your favorite characters in this book and what makes them stand out for you?


    Ken Liu:

    I love Redy, the conspiracy theorist. She dedicates her considerable intellectual powers to motivated reasoning to defend a story that fits her worldview. While the reader is free to dismiss Redy, I think we all have a bit of Redy in us — it’s just much harder know when the inner Redy is spinning her tales.

    I also love Aya-Glon, a girl from a world covered in water. She and a mysterious visitor to her world challenge each other’s deepest held beliefs while also learning from each other. Some of my most cherished friendships have been like that.


    http://www.starwars.com/news/ken-liu-exploring-perfect-mythic-figure-the-legends-of-luke-skywalker
     
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    No, no, no... I am not talking about the book. I'm just saying that if Luke did have a wife and daughter that were killed somehow (the temple destruction or anything else), it would make for an emotionally resonant story if he were to "adopt" Rey so to speak. That's all. That said, I personally DON'T think Luke romanced anyone, let alone this waaaay too young character from the book (which I HAVE read). There's nothing in the book to suggest otherwise, and Disney ain't goin down that road, thankyouverymuch. I don't think Luke has ever romanced anyone. I don't think Rey is his. I DO think he will wind up as a father figure to her, and I DO think that particular storyline would carry more emotional weight if he lost his own daughter somehow. But it isn't necessary. It's already emotional in that he never got the chance to have kids of his own.
     
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    The real problem in here is not Aya the child, because she was be probabaly 19 when vent to find Luke again...problem is this makes Kylo even a greater killer if Luke had a Force sensitive wife, making hypotethical Rey's Force sensitive mother, Lukes lover/Wife -obviously by logic one of the victims of Kylo's slaughter so this Kylo even more(iretrievably) distanced for Rey..

    In that sense,this is only problem for Lukes Force sensitive wife of any kind, unfortuinately serrious, ....it makes Kylo redemption even more distant, and Rey's everlasting enemy (not just he killed his father, he would be suspected killer of her mother to).

    So in this sence, unfortunately.,I now understand ReyLo screemers., and I admitt it will be to much....
     
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    So I have to ask how this supports a Ada/Luke thing? She, and the mysterious stranger do challenge their deepest held beliefs about the way the Force works, and is meant to be perceived. That's what the entire short story is about as it pertains to Luke's personal arc in the story.

    Again, for posterity sake, "Why don't you have seat?"

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    Aya-Flux code named: MARA JADE(gamorrean)
     
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    @McDiarmid just to let you know not everyone thinks rey random = reylo. I for one don't. I see it being one sided at the most.

    Just a little FYI because your jumping to your usual black and white preconception without a base in fact or reality.
     
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    Aya goes to find Luke as an adult women.

    It is her choice.

    Go to your peperwork, in fact while doing this daily routine you could first read the book, than perhaps make your own self-endulging book in which Aya , actually, decide not to go to find Luke.

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    proposal...


    Force vision.
    Rey in a role of her father just before he met his destiny(Bespin, finding Vader is his father)

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    Force vision.
    Rey in a role of her mother just before she met her destiny.

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    I feel very strongly that the Forceback shows the Skywalker Legacy lightsaber’s past, as well as a glimpse at Rey’s (obviously) and the future. I don’t think any of it is from someone else’s perspective.
     
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    Ah, Lightsaber theory, it has big hole.

    .in fact I personally destroyed this theory so its mentioned only by people who didnt read my razor cut..

    If what is in Rey's vision is legacy Saber's-perspective, a record of events recorded by light saber himself..that saber should have been on Jakku to see this..

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    ..which is nearly impossible, or, one who left the Rey had a saber with him....again proving Rey is probably Skywalker , and definitely not random.....

    However we can move one step and destroy this theory completly:

    For this to see, a departure of the ship that left Rey on Jakku in the vision, Saber should have stayed on Jakku with Rey.

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    Saber has thus just trigerred Force vision within Rey.
     
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    After seeing all the speculation around the book i just had to get it.:D
     
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