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SPECULATION Is Darth Bane the Villain of Ep 7?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Voxx, Oct 14, 2014.

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Who would best fit the role of Darth Bane in the Sequel Trilogy?

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  1. Voxx

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    Great article, there is only so many possibilities of the villian without the creation of something entirely new, and this is the most logical I've heard yet.
     
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    Well thanks :)
     
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    superb article Voxx!

    for me it fits.. and it joins dots as well as anything i've read so far in terms of the bad guy for ep7.

    there's just one thing that bothers me about Bane (and why i've got my saurons eye fixed on Naga Sadow at the minute - cant get it out of my head) and that's his name.. Bane. everything about him would work for this trilogy in my mind.. but because of batmans DC bad guy thats already been on the big screen and recently.. i just don't know if it sounds right for the new ST? meh.. maybe thats being silly?
     
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    Some people will probably think they copied Bane from The Dark Knight Rises but they're probably unaware of Darth Bane being around prior to Bane's appearance in the most recent Bat-Man movie. It will have been 3 or 4 years since then, so who knows.

    EDIT:
    It looks like Jason Ward @ MakingStarWars.com thought something similar back when Season 6 of The Clone Wars was released on NetFlix.
    http://makingstarwars.net/2014/03/d...-a-link-to-star-wars-the-clone-wars-yoda-arc/
     
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    Excellent article and some very interesting speculation there. :cool:

    My feeling on this is very much the same as my reaction to speculation that Darth Plagueis was going to be the ST villain. Why would a greedy, power-hungry Sith lord capable of resurrecting themselves (or leaping into another's body or what have you) sit on their ectoplasmic thumbs and wait for so long to return, while other lesser Sith reaped the benefits of power?

    IMHO, the more logical solution from a storytelling perspective would be to have "The Ancient Fear" be the discovery and use of powerful ancient Sith knowledge and technology, which brings the galaxy back to the brink of disaster as it was the last time such power and technology was used.

    Just my two cents. Your mileage may vary... ;)
     
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    Hmmm very good theory.
     
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    i like that too.. but..

    doesn't the audience need a big terrifying baddie to make us quake in our boots?

    it's why i don't buy into the rumour of Luke being the bad guy.. of course i can see luke turning bad - his and his father's decisions are the backbone of the star wars movies so far so that's very plausible. just can't see him being the out-n-out villian.. we will still know it's luke and that he'll probably come around.

    how do you think that sith knowledge and tech could affect the galaxy? even if say driver's character came into contact with it and became evil and corrupted.. would he really be an all fearing bad guy that the audience can be a bit scared of?

    i'm still on the side of the fence that has an ancient lord returning somehow.. just not sure how or who lol
     
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    Not sure whether I’m whole heartedly buying into Bane or Plagueis being the villain. My gut tells me they go with something new to appeal to new audiences. But just to play devil’s advocate.

    If an ancient sith was waiting for a resurgence its possible they needed two things to happen.

    1. The removal of Siddious from the equation.
    2. A fully trained Jedi to corrupt as an apprentice to aid in their ressurection.

    Considering both of those happened at the end of RotJ, that would explain his wait until that point. If you take the speculation of Luke’s self-isolation into account. You could make the argument that Luke found out about Bane/Plagueis’s plan post RotJ and went into hiding to avoid the resurgence of the Sith. That could be why Driver/Villain is searching and why Von Sydow gets so excited when Luke’s Saber is found.

    Just speculation on my part. But I think those rationalizations could work.
     
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    Cool ! the Sith have Opportunity knocking on their door!
     
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    Absolutely! Obviously, we're not just talking about some Jawa stumbling across a bunch of tech and holocrons on Moribund. If this ancient knowledge is dredged up, it would be deliberate and it would almost certainly be by somebody seeking to resurrect the Sith and assume an unprecedented amount of power.

    The dark side, after all, isn't centered around an individual (whether it's Palpatine, Bane or whomever.) The dark side works through individuals like that. Say the story about Adam Driver's character being some noble who is obsessed with searching out Sith artifacts turns out to be something they're actually using for Episode 7. If he has the strength of will and character to match his intent to learn these ancient Sith mysteries, it seems that this would be all the dark side would need to transform him into the next massive galactic dark-side threat.
     
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    Plus, I also agree with Maximus' point about the name "Bane" already being so closely associated with the Batman franchise. It's not just that he was the villain in the last Dark Knight movie, he's also been around in the comic series for at least 20 years.
     
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    yay i'm not the only one being silly about the name bane lol

    p.s. please don't double post... the mods will be after you ;) lmao
     
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    I hereby issue meself a warning to that effect. ;)
     
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    interesting.. and the fact that an awful lot of sith lords (im making this statement on everything i've ever read - so all canon and non-canon resources) were originally jedi's does lean towards your thoughts.

    do you really think that we will see the creation of the main villain then during the new trilogy? I know that we watched Vader's evolution.. but he was only ever the apprentice (ok.. maybe he was master for a brief few minutes). are you thinking that a young cast member will find something.. use it.. say the "i promise to be a bad guy" oath and flash/bang.. big ol sith lord?

    lot of sarcasm there but a genuine question lol

    i hate to say i told you so.. :p
     
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    Well, there are plenty of ways it could be done. The easiest way, of course, would be to just have the villain up and running by the beginning of Episode 7. Or, the villain in the first film could be the one who discovered the ancient Sith knowledge, but is just sort of dabbling in it and making trouble, and somebody with true personal strength (possibly even a Jedi who is seeking to stop the villain) ends up taking the power away from him and becomes a far greater threat (I'd assume by the end of Episode 7.)

    I don't know that we'd watch a villain grow over the course of the trilogy, because... well, we already saw that in the PT, and I don't think they'd want to just rehash that when they can lay a bad-ass villain on us straight away.
     
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    Nice article, very well written.

    I definitely think it's possible, though I'm another one who doubts Disney would use a character named Bane.

    I'm leaning towards Pelagius. Simply because he's actually mentioned in a movie and this would allow them to explore Anakin's origins.

    Also Abrams likes to be...cute for lack of a better word. So I'm starting to think a cloned Luke will pop up or....

    Palagius or Bane or whoever will be able to take on different forms. MVS character, Luke, even Vader....

    Disney would love that.
     
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    good article tom. i think darth bane will be the villain of episode 7.
    2012-08-18-darth_bane.jpg
     
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    Maximus - you nailed it. There's no chance a character named Darth Bane will be prominent in these films. It would be akin to having one named The Joker and doubly so after the success of that film.
     
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    hehe darth joker, good thing we have mark hamill
     
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