Is Rogue One Disney’s best Star Wars film yet?

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To me, it’s the best of the three. As far as the other two, i feel like I’ll appreciate them once IX is released and i can watch all three as a package.

 

I'd say yes. To me, Rogue One feels like a Star Wars film made by Lucasfilm whereas TFA and TLJ feels like Star Wars films made by Disney.

 

The Last Jedi has been my favourite of the new films, followed closely by Rogue One.

 

It really is no contest. It'd literally take an entire book to describe why.

And I don't even particularly like R1. It's okay. That's how bad TFA and TLJ are from a technical standpoint.

Just two examples:

1. The moment when the communications officer runs to alert Mon Mothma about the mission and Raddus; the corner of her mouth lifts in the tiniest of smiles. This is an example of a perfectly engineered 'Fist pump from the audience' moment, executed with restraint and subtlety.

There is only ONE moment that even comes close to this degree of basic filmmaking competence in the entirety of either TFA or TLJ: The Rey cooking alone moment in TFA. That's it. That is literally the only competently executed scene in the combined four-plus hours of TFA and TLJ. Rogue One on the other hand has many of them, especially during the Scarif battle.

2. The moment where the U-wing deposits ground reinforcements and the female pilot turns around to yell. That pilot isn't asian for the sake of being asian, she's not pretty for the sake of being pretty onscreen. She looks like 'a truck driver' because that's what she is, and because of that, the shot becomes more than just a shot of debarking troops: it becomes a moment about the rebellion being ordinary people doing extraordinary things and it comes through in that brief screentime.

TLJ and TFA can only dream of the amount of subtlely and craftsmanship involved in just these two moments that combine for maybe 20 seconds of screentime.

Filmmaking isn't about putting sh!t up on screen. It's about engineering moments of thought and emotion that play underneath the visuals.

 

Rogue One is just a fan-service movie with lots of explosions, cool fights and wooden characters.
Felicity Jones had zero charisma in this movie.
Those slow motion deaths of Chirrut, Baze and rest of the crew are so forced out, like we supposed to care about them.
A lot of SW fans praise this movie, but that is because it has been made especially for them. You can't get more fan service than this.

I watched it 2 times in cinema, and it's just like watching a really long intro movie to SW game.
I really hope that Han Solo spin-off goes in some completely other direction than this one.

 

The film was great except for character development. I wish they had more time to show Jyn, but they did only have one movie. A series or sequels would've helped.

 

4 me it is.

TFA. Yes, a rehash but it feels like SW.

R1. Bad lead acting but something nu. A nice gritty war film.

TLJ. An abomination. I thought this trilogy was about the next generation of Skywalker(s). Instead your just killing off my heroes.

 

Out of all the Disney films, I would have to rank them:

TLJ > RO > TFA

I liked RO fine. It did what it wanted to do. I didn't think it was amazing or outstanding, but I enjoyed it.

 

Rogue One is a great movie, but I think the last Jedi was better. Despite everything, both films are still excellent.

 

For me, it is not. Don't missunderstand me, it is a good movie that I can watch many times, too, but I didn't fell in love with it like with TFA...

 

I must say, having no mystery boxes was quite refreshing.

 

It's awesome, but I'm not sure if it's the best.

 

I enjoyed RI and Vader's "Walk of Death" is my favorite scene of any Star Wars movie to date. Also, I liked the fact that everyone died as it was such a departure from any SW movie. But TLJ... you know I initially didn't know how to feel about it. With the loss of Luke and knowing that Leia was not going to be there for IX, I just came out of the theater with this profound sadness. Then I watched it a 2nd time and now it is my favorite of the Disney movies.

 

Rogue One is basically Star Wars porn. It's a carefully crafted comitee fanservice movie... No wonder it miraculously seems to hold every fan together.
Fans say they want originality in Star Wars, yet when they actually face their characters going through changes which conflict their headcanon, they rush back to a movie like Rogue One as fast as possible.

 

I really enjoyed Rogue One, and for a movie that's mostly a success, right?

When I did my 8 movie marathon in preparing for The Last Jedi (ordered PT, RO, OT, TFA) I noticed that as cool as it is as a bridge between the old and prequel trilogies, it just seems like a deep breath between them, too. Part of this, I think, is the characters.

I am not someone who thinks that the Rogue One characters are underdeveloped. You of course have to consider that they had only one film to work with a relatively big ensemble case, while the other trilogies had, by definition, three. And given that, I think they did a pretty great job.

But I think that as much as I prefer the final act of the film for its huge and impressive battle scenes (honestly, some of the best battle scenes in Star Wars history) I can't help but think that the characters were written pretty passively in it. See, the bulk of the action in Star Wars films is typically away from the main fight- think how very few main characters are on the front lines at Hoth, in the skies of Endor, or in open warfare against the Trade Federation at Naboo. Instead, at Hoth most of the main characters are at Echo Base, most are on the ground at Endor, and most are at one of the various objectives on Naboo rather than being on the battle at the plains or near the conrol ship battle. Basically, multi-tiered action scenes are a Star Wars tradition.

But think of that example with Naboo. You've got Jar Jar fighting with the Gungans as a distraction to draw the Trade Federation armies away. Then you have two Jedi fighting a freakin Sith, buying the Queen time to get to the Viceroy and end the war. Then, incidentally, Anakin joins the fray in the space battle and saves the day.

But with Rogue One, these roles are less defined and sort of anti-climactic. Jyn and Cassian arguably have the most defined role- get the plans, beam them up. In a way, they're working toward the main objective just like the Queen's squad in TPM. K2 joins them, and does droid stuff, eventually breaking off from the group to hold off enemies (not totally unlike the Jedi v Maul). Solid enough, if not kinda boring (seriously, it's kind of bad when the movie cuts to the main objective of the film and you're left wishing you were watching literally any of the other action happening on the planet).

But what about everyone else? Chirrut and Baze are left behind to hold off Stormtroopers- basically the gungan diversion of this scenario. The scenes here are cool and Chirrut does fulfill a major role by activating the Master switch, so I guess that's fine enough. But in the end, Baze just walks around on a beach before getting exploded by a thermal detonator. The Rebellion could've used that dude and his giant gun.

Then, there's Bodhi. He... makes a phone call? Then he blows up. Teriffic! Honestly, I don't even know what comparison to make for him with the Battle of Naboo. I guess Anakin's all that's left, but honestly I'd give that one to the Hammerhead Corvette that ends up saving the day by ramming two Star Destroyers together.

And that, in my opinion, is exactly the issue this movie faces. If it sounds like I'm anti-Rogue One, I can assure you I'm not- I loved the movie! But so much of the awesome action scenes were given away to random Rebels, leaving very little for our heroes to do except press buttons, make phone calls, and pick up a hard drive.

And in the end, I'm afraid that by giving little of interest for the heroes to do, we've doomed them to be about as forgotten in real life as they are in the Rebellion itself by the time Luke gets his medals. After all, ask any fan what their favorite action scene is in the film and there's a good chance they'll bring up that mind-blowing hallway scene- which incidentally in no direct way involves any of the main characters, and we can assume occurred after they'd all died anyway.

 

It would of bin great if say Blaze made it back to Bohdi, took off and rammed something.

 

After my utter disappointment with TLJ, I think R1 will hold up better then the ST now. Ironically I think the ST will be held down and overshadowed by Luke, Leia and Han as their eventual arcs will split the fanbase for years. R1 will have the freedom of being judged on its own merits as all of the main characters are new. Yes it has Vader and Tarkin (and Leia) but the bulk of the movie is carried by an original cast. And the tone of R1 blows away TFA and TLJ as some the humor in those movies feel too forced. R1 is just a solid movie, not a classic, but much more solid then TFA and TLJ.

 

Hmmmm . . . yep. I think it is.