Jumanji tops The Last Jedi over holiday weekend.

Clear your mind. I'm just as furious as you about the way Finn's character is being handled. Like the way Rose has to explain to Finn how horrible it was for her to be a slave.... Like come on, Finn doesn't need to be "lectured" about that, he if anyone should know how its like to be brought up as a slave (among many examples).

When I said abused child, I meant the way Luke tried to murder him - that's what made Rey feel compassion.

Well, the way they can do it is of course to have Luke appear as a Force ghost frequently in the film. Actually I wouldn't be surprised if that's something they're planning in the writing room right now. Maybe JJ already pitched this idea.

I think Rogue One made over a billion because it was riding on the waves of TFA. And the fact that it had TIE-fighters, X-wings and the Death Star. Now personally, I think Rogue One is a wonderful film for completely different reasons than those, but that's another story.

I do agree with you that TLJ is a turning point. From now on, it can basically go anywhere. If I had to take a guess, I'd say downhill.

 

I think what a lot of people are missing is that everyone watched TLJ and about 30% didn't like it. Of that 70% who see it positively, most still have some issues with it, I'd even guess that there's a significant portion who are waiting for their final verdict based on Ep9. Unless JJ creates some magic, I'm going to venture a significant portion of that 70% will be lost as well by the end of this trilogy. Then another portion will be lost because the end of this trilogy will spell the end of the OT cast. I'm not going to venture what the numbers are because that would just be spit balling, but TLJ needs Ep9 to succeed to validate it as worthy for some of that 70%.

Beyond that, they kind of negated any hype over Finn in TLJ, who was a bright spot in TFA. There's some loss steam when it comes to Poe as well, so we're really left with only Kylo and Rey as the characters to bring fans back. Now I'm not saying Ep9 won't make money, but I think moving forward, the days of 200+ million opening weekends might not be so much money in the bank as it used to be.

That's my impression, but time will tell for certain. I think Disney, KK, RJ and to a lesser extent JJ took missteps. It will be interesting to see if JJ can salvage this or how many new fans the ST really brought in to replace the 30% of fans who are no longer going to be repeat watchers of the films.

 

70-30 yes when it comes to the casuals. But us hardcore vets who invested almost 30 years in this saga, the split is 50-50.

The younger hardcores, the ones raised during the PT & later seems 60-40.

So i guess all this fuzzy math adds up.

 

No, it doesn't add up. The casual audience gave the film a 89% approval rating. Based on the unscientific polls here on this site it breaks about 70/30. The people reading/commenting on this forum I'd consider hardcore fans.

 

The 89 was critics. The 52% r the fans.

 

You must be confused. The 89% was the scientific comScore poll of the ticket buying audience. Also, if you're going to continue to leave me negative ratings all over this forum simply because you didn't like a movie you might want to take a deep breath and take a look at your life.

 

It really depends on where you want to look. Boxofficemojo has it at #1

"For starters, look for Star Wars: The Last Jedi to once again finish #1 for a third weekend in a row."

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=4356&p=.htm

 

Unfortunately Jumanji was a better written story.

Saw it Friday and it played on the largest auditorium in my local theater. Same one TLJ was on when I went see it. Entire family loved it.

Much higher scores on RT, IMBD, etc. Critic scores while higher for TLJ are really not much lower than TLJ.

 

Not really.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottm...ars-the-last-jedi-is-a-disaster/#fb870784c02e

 

Yet another member trying to say TLJ is a disappointment at the box office, and is therefore a disappointment as a film......



It's the 8th highest domestic grossing film of all time, two weeks into release. Oh no. How can Star Wars possibly survive...

And as for Jumanji, a reboot of a popular IP, staring The Rock, Kevin Hart, and Jack Black......opening on a holiday weekend as a young children/family friendly comedy......

OF COURSE it's going to do amazing at the box office. They've got mainstream audiences in the bag.

None of that determines the quality of TLJ one, freaking, bit.

 

Oh yeah... it's a total box office disaster so far....

 

Is Jumanji a good movie? Redo of the one with Robin Williams or a sequel?

 

We are living in a world where that crap actor Dwayne Johnson is the highest paid actor.It doesn’t say blast about TLJs quality so who gives a Blast.

 

But the movie is a hit. A big hit. And that's the only thing that matters.

 

Say whatever you want about the box office, but shut the blast up about box office numbers being a reflection of the film's quality, and an affirmation of your opinion of the film.

Avatar and JW are on the list of highest grossing films for crying out loud...

Stop beating a dead bantha.