Jumanji tops The Last Jedi over holiday weekend.

I think Disney will be a little disappointed with those numbers.

 

RJ was a genius on the 12th Dec. A day later, with Rey Solo a distant memory, he’s ruined Star Wars. Despite critical acclaim and being one of the highest grossing films of all time. The franchise is ruined. As are our childhood memories of Luke Skywalker.

Chernobyl has nothing on this.

 

Agree to disagree, I think Disney is run by smart people who aren't swayed by internet trolls who are desperate to manufacture a narrative.

I hope giving me negative feedback makes you feel better.

But Rian Johnson never answered that question about Leia's ring!!? It was the smoking gun @master_shaitan!

 

Remind me, what was it you said about those of us who supported ReyLo/Rey No One?

Claiming the moral high ground now isn’t going to cut it.

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No, she wiggles her finger when she did the space walk, confirming Rey Solo will happen in IX. @McDiarmid wrote a whole thesis on it. Great read.

 

I saw Jumanji 2 in 3D with 10 other people (mostly family members) a few days ago. I was going to recommend against Star Wars but nobody wanted to see it anyway. While Jumanji 2's story with high school teen angst is definitely not for me anymore along with some silly 'body' humor, I enjoyed the adventure and it was a good time.

 

That ring, that plainly symbolises 2 with mysterious strong connection between them, that awakens Leia's right hand and than entire her body in Space, is a smoking gun. Yes it is.

After almost 2 years my suspition cames to fruitition, by ..in fact by Rian Johnson showing ring( what it simbolyses) to be very important.

 

Happy new year, man.

#BeatingTheDeadHorseSince2015

 

Happy new year .

Let the next year be so perfect to you and everyone yours as perfect is the Leia's Space scene when one sees the strenght beyond bond, symbolised by one mysterious ring on Leia's hand ,that was central to it.

 

Next...Emoji 2 will be promoted against TLJ. Fast Furious 10 against TLJ. CHiPS was better than TLJ...and on and on.

 

Does it matter? The Trilogy (so far) has made a tonne of money so we'll be treated to a Disney wars movie every year or two for the rest of time.

 

This is just so fascinating.

 

Seriously, can this guy not understand that there's already a thread for box office discussion? Or maybe he could use the half a dozen other threads he's created trying to spam evidence to support his opinion that the film is objectively bad.

We get it. You liked the Prequels when everyone else shitted on them, and now you want to try to have your turn with the ST. The joke is it ain't gonna work dawg, because every poll I've seen in these forums, and on every other Star Wars community has the film rated positively.

 

Such a good point. Seems like the trolls are very good at voting.

How insane does a person have to be to do something like that? You don't need bots when you've got people willing to do that.

 

Jebus...

 

Star Wars fans willing to sign up to Facebook and Forum communities are not the main volume of people watching the movies.
So far as I've seen, about a 3rd of just about any poll on here and across Facebook fan sites (that is; general fan pages, not pages specifically for fans who hated the show), are fans who did not like it and 2/3rds in favor of it in some degree or another.

So let's bump that up and say 45% of the devoted fanbase may have not liked the film much, just to be on the safe side.

That doesn't mean much in the long run. You see the same thing over in Star Trek groups; long-time fans thinking that because the devoted fanbase is divided that something is doomed. Well, thing is; a devoted fanbase is GREAT and it frontloads your show, but it's not where the bulk of your revenue is going to come from.

The average person doesn't know jack-all about SW canon, nor do they really care. They rarely stop to think about what the Force can and cannot do, and they haven't the faintest idea what the history of the Jedi is in scope to projects like The Clone Wars or the variety of games and cartoons which explore more of the universe.

They simply know pretty much one thing: It's Star Wars and they want to go see Star Wars because Star Wars is a major attraction and has been for a really long time.
If they walk out having had a good time; cool. And that's about the end of the average person's thought process regarding Star Wars. They might talk about it lightly with their friends over lunch or dinner once, but that's about it. They aren't going to sit back and talk about how they think it lines up in context to the Star Wars universe continuity, or fan theories; nor is the average person going to be on their phone or at home at any point over the week and think, "God I loved/hated that movie, I need to go rate this online!"
Online reviews at places like IMDB or RT are a good reflection of cinemaphiles' responses, but not the average Joe and Jane.

The way to tell is how many viewings are happening. If you ballpark around $10 domestic and $8.2 internationally as the averages for ticket prices, then you end up with the opening weekend containing about 16 million viewings globally per day, and after opening weekend about 5 million viewings per day.
We're roughly around 117 million viewings total, thus far.

Now, according to the last MPAA Census[*] there's around 164,000 screens in the world, averaging about 250 seats per screen.
This results in an average occupancy rating for the opening weekend of around 40% (of the total seats in the world), and after the opening weekend, about 12% per day.

It's tempting to think that this doesn't sound very impressive, but consider that there are 164,000 screens, averaging 250 seats per screen, with an average annual admission of 1.3 billion tickets, and we'll be nice and spread that over 300 days of the year, and the average is somewhere between 10% (by 2016 calculations from the MPAA) and 12%[*] (calculated by an old 2001 article) of the total capacity (you may think that sounds absurd, but consider all the time everyone's off to work and yet the theater is still up and running at 10 AM just playing a film to a mostly empty screen house and this happens more than it doesn't since "movie night" isn't every night...in fact, the average movie goer only goes to about 5 films a year in the theater).

Let's take the median of those averages and park it at about 11%.

So think about this a bit. That means that, not counting opening weekend (which is 3.6 times the median average occupancy, but that's not surprising), the daily occupancy supplied by TLJ is currently 8% more than the median average of normal occupancy levels per screen in theaters.

I don't think that indicates a swath of the general public hating TLJ.
Considering that Theaters make 90 cents on the dollar for popcorn, they are likely pretty pleased at the seat occupancy currently.

Maybe a sizable chunk of long-time Star Wars fans either hate it or have issues with it, but the general public* seems to be having a fine time enjoying the movie.
*(and other ideas that are crazy to bother thinking about like the general public in China and Japan who have vastly different culture surrounding what constitutes a good film than Western critically minded, and well versed, devoted Star Wars fans....anyway)

Cheers,
Jayson

 

What is the point of this thread?

What is the goal?

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So in 40 years, we will be basking in the glory of the Jumanji franchise, with nearly $10 billion in movie revenue, $ billions more in toy/book/etc revenue, and millions of dedicated fans.

 

Personally i whish i could give TLJ negative #s.

 

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