Life Debt and Episode VIII

PRETTY sure it's not him in my personal opinion or hux. would be force sensitive but hey he still might be

 

Nah not a chance. And they aren't going to reveal who Snoke is in a novel.

 

But he didn't say that. He says you'll find out if Rax is or isn't. Which he isn't. You won't find out who Snoke is but he'll probably make an appearance, my bet, briefly at the end.

 

Yeah I've read it and I really like the Rax character. But my thought process is that I believe Snoke's name is Snoke. He was supposedly "active during the clone wars", when Rax was just a child. The parts of the book where he was a child are played out from his perspective and there is no indication that he was anything more than a child. I think Snoke is way older than that. I also, as I said, don't think there'll be any major plot point for the ST revealed in the novels, it would take the buzz out of finding out who he is in the movies and confuse the casual fans who don't read the books. I believe Rax will be fundamental to finding Snoke and installing him as Supreme Leader, but is not Snoke. My other reason is due to the theory that Snoke has some connection to the Rakata. Rakata Prime is canon as per the galaxy map released for TFA but it has not been used yet. There has to be big plans for a planet for it to appear on a canon galactic map, which to date, two years later has still not appeared (Every other system and planet on that map has appeared somewhere in canon.) My theory is that either Snoke is an ancient Rakata who was held in stasis at the installation on Jakku - or a pre clone wars era Jedi who went out to the unknown regions and discovered the dark side power of the Rakata.

 

If Snoke is a new character, history of origin should be in a novel. We want to know his biography in detail, but the ST does not have any time for this.

 

They could kill Rax, making it impossible. Starting to believe it may indeed be him though, or some deep connection to him.

 

Yes but not before his origin is revealed in paraphrased form in a movie. Empire's End will be out in a few months.

@The Futurition I'm not saying Snoke won't make an appearance, I'm not saying his origins won't be expanded upon in a future novel, I'm just saying they won't reveal the juiciest parts of the answer to the "who is Snoke?" question in a novel that comes out before it is revealed in a Movie.

PS the Rakata theory is oddly not massive, considering it's a lot more plausible than most of the ones that went viral, but it was put forward by some (inc me) in the run up to TFA on here and there is at least one youtube vid.

 

I think people are really hopeful the novels will reveal stuff.

I agree nothing major is going to come out in a novel.

More detail later? Sure.

 

I imagine Snoke says he is Gallius Rax(for example) actually in Episode VIII, majority of viewers do not understand what is going on screen.
A film - entertainment. I mean those who follow attentively the new canon, they get 100% pleasure.

 

I've read both books, and initially I thought there was scope for Gallius Rax to be Snoke, but then when Palps meetings him as a kid on Jakku, he describes himself as Emperor so it's safe to assume that the clone wars have ended by this point. (There is a reference to the end of the Clone Wars in Rebels, but let's ignore that for the purposes of my ramblings.)

It's not inconceivable that we've already seen or at least heard of Snoke in the prequel trilogy but he may have gone by a different name. Given that Disney de-canonned the novels, it is *possible* that it could be Darth Plageus. But he wasn't active in the Clone Wars, so scratch that idea.

The Maul theory isn't that far fetched, given that he was active towards the end of the Clone Wars, but then it would beg the question where are the horns etc? I couldn't imagine them being removed, and what of the facial markings? Also they would have used Peter Stefanowiz (sp?) to voice him. So I don't think it's Maul.

There was suggestion that it could be Mace Windu, but I don't think so, because he had both his hands in the film...

So who could it be? Let's not forget that Rian Johnson is directing, and he's already said it's an extremely different direction and it'll be far out there...

We know he's a force sensitive, so it rules out a lot of other characters. "There has been an awakening, have you felt it?" Or do we?

What if one of his acolytes told him? And he simply responds to that? He also knew a lot about Ben Solo's family...

We have no proof that Tarkin didn't survive the Death Star, but what if he did? That would fit with the scars etc, what if he realised that everything was about to go bang, and tried to escape but failed to do so and his ship got caught in the blast? He built Starkiller Base which was essentially a Death Star Mk 3, he knows about Darth Vader, and has seen the Force first hand. He may have known about what was on Jakku, and that's what saved his life maybe, whatever was hidden there, and after the destruction of the Death Star, Gallius Rax helped him to recover and regroup and start planting the seeds for the first order after the destruction of the first Death Star?

I reckon that would be an awesome thing I reckon...but what do I know?

 

Interesting theories, but I believe everyone is reading into these secondary, newly-introduced novel/canon characters waaaaaay too much.

My theory:

Snoke is the same species as Maz Kanata.

Take a good look at him.

Now, take a look at the very-Force-sensitive Maz, without her goggles.

He looks like an angry, injured, scarred, dehydrated version of Maz's species. The only reason he look enormous is due to the hologram, which he could have made into any size that could be projected (not unlike, say, the Wizard in 'The Wizard Of Oz').

I believe whatever Snoke's backstory is, it will tie-in deeply to Maz Kanata's backstory - which will be far more significant than we realize. This will also explain her history with Han Solo and how she acquired Luke's lightsaber.

 

Well considering Snoke is supposed to be roughly 7is feet tall, I doubt they're the same species, but maybe they're still deeply connected somehow.

 

I considered this previous info as well.

His hologram is enormous and 7+ feet tall. But what about in real-life? Does it say canonically anywhere that, yes, he is indeed 7+ feet tall in person? I recall Andy Serkis and others saying, "The new bad guy is enormous." and stuff like that. For all we know, the actors could have been referring to the Snoke hologram portrayal and they may also be in the dark about him due to script leaks, etc.

We shall see.

These speculations are all fun to read through. December 2017 can't arrive soon enough!

 

The hologram looked way more than 7feet but i think pablo or jj or kk or someone said he's like 7 feet but it wasnt specified except for being around that height.