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Life Debt and Episode VIII

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by The Futurition, Jul 20, 2016.

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Do you believe that Gallius Rax becomes or is Snoke?

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  2. No

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  3. Undecided

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  4. Your Snoke theory sucks

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  5. Who the hell is Gallius Rax?

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  1. The Futurition

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    I believe it has something to do with Hux and Project Harvester. He shares the same belief that the Empire reborn needs to be replenished with brainwashed children that will grow up to be extremely loyal to the cause. That's what the First Order does eventually. Finn was one of those until 'the awakening'.
     
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    correct it is talk and if he is RAx he uses tools and not the force... which is exactly what Rax does... also note TAshu is not with the force but knows how to use masks
     
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    I didn't say the novels were irrelevant, I said the novels wouldn't contain information critical to our understanding of the films. This is just common sense from a story group perspective, since the audience for the films is a few magnitudes greater than the audience for collateral materials. If Rax does turn out to be Snoke, as you suspect, I think this will be revealed in the films, not the books.
     
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    I agree. That way those of us diehards who read the books will understand and appreciate any references to Rax and to the casual viewer it will be just a new piece of backstory
     
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    I doubt you will ever see Snoke's name in a novel prior to the release of Episode 8. But, we will get more on Rax in the final Aftermath book. Since there is a big gap in time from the Battle of Jakku to TFA, it will be interesting how they leave things. Will Rax escape? Will he die? Will we think he's dead but survives and ends up scarred and deformed? How they leave things will be a big clue in my opinion.
     
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    I can see that next novel ending with all the candidates for Snokedom surviving and heading to the Unknown Regions.
    Who will find the source of the Darkside?
     
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    That will be interesting.. I'll go with the last one. We will be made to believe that he is dead, but he will escape and be badly mangled only to come back as Snoke.
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    I'm just having a hard time seeing any candidates for Snokedom other than Rax. Hux just doesn't fit the profile. No one has presented themselves or been introduced in this canon to claim that title correctly.
     
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    what if two or more imperials get fused together? I just don't see them creating an evil father and son in the novels and not expoit it in the movies.
     
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    How do you explain Brendol Hux to an audience in VIII which in a capacity of 90% will not have read the books? one of the major problems audiences had with VII was the lack of character development. Hardly a mistake you want to make again by introducing Hux father when very little is known about the son.
     
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    Yeah, Brendol Hux is backstory for a novel, not a feature film. General Hux is simply the Admiral Phiett of the new movies in my opinion, I really don't want them to waste screen time on his backstory.

    Apparently Hux follows his fathers footsteps in raising children as soldiers for the 1st order. Rax (Snoke?) was instrumental in his survival which is a nice clue as to why Hux is such a hardliner for the first order and so loyal to Snoke.
     
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    Brendol Hux served the Republic before the Empire, so I'm pretty sure he'd be dead by the time of the ST, or at least very old and doddery and not much use.
     
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    I don't think Rax will become Snoke, but there is another possible candidate mentioned in Life Debt that I think would make much more sense. In the Prelude there is a "holy place, a place that the Consecrated Eremite called is home thousands of years ago, when Jakku was a living place" and Palpatine built some kind of research facility in that spot. Until we get more info my money is on Snoke = Consecrated Eremite and while I'm at it: Rey's creation (not necessarily birth) is also somehow related to that place.
     
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    Please don't take this the wrong way but isn't that Anakin's story? I feel it would be kind of been there done that if that's the backstory they choose to give Snoke, but on the other side, depending on the execution, it could turn out to be awesome as well.
     
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    I see a long monologue by Snoke to Rey, telling her everything the general audience needs to know. He seems the type of villian who will give his life story at the drop of a hat.
     
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    I don't deny it would sort of borrow from Anakin's story somewhat, but isn't that what's happening anyways? Snoke is mangled from whatever he went through, and becomes the (Dark Side) supreme leader of the First Order.
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    Possible. Only if she turns out to be tempted by the Dark Side. ;)

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    Interesting. Well, one thing is for sure... Someone wanted us to at least consider Gallius as Snoke. Consider this tweet, before the book even came out.

     
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    There's something more (to quote Snoke), is it possible that with the Ravager going down face first on Jakku, The 'Dead Enders' took Rax and Sloane (who were probably badly injured, disfigured and near death) , brought them underground to the Imperial facility where the supposed source of the dark side resides, and turned them into Snoke and Captain Phasma?


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    So these dead-enders are a tantalizing link to the research base. When was the base shut down and the guards left to their own? After the Battle of Jakku or earlier? Did something other than the desert sun fry their brains. And of course what are the strings of numbers they recite?
     
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    From what I've gathered, the base seems to have been shut down by the empire before the new republic/resistance got their hands on it. We'll know it by the end of the next book. As for the string of numbers they recite when confronted, that's an interesting one...could be coordinates, or random numbers to create confusion..really no clue mate..just throwing stuff out there.

    Oh, and for those who want to know where this 'dead enders' story came from, it's from Rey (Raeh) herself and her survival book. star-wars-post-dead-enders.jpg
     
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    Armitage Hux is a certainty.

    Ben is another certainty. Notice that Aftermath had nothing about Leia being pregnant or Han and Leia being married but Life Debt does. They withheld info in the first book.
     
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