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Local Theaters Implementing Bans On Costumes For New ‘Star Wars’ Film

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Cyber Dyne 1000, Nov 2, 2015.

  1. AstromechRecords

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    I agree with you, mostly...maybe there should be "special" screenings outdoors where we can wear costumes, but pay a premium and have a great time.
     
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    Every time society reacts in fear because of a few loons those loons win.
     
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    Land of the Free!
    ~ Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.


    Jedi Master Plo Koon didn't say that but he should have >_>
     
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    I'm perfectly fine with this, but only if prequel costumes are banned.. Jar Jar and clone troopers for example
     
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    The theaters could benefit from teaming with local cosplay groups and having them appear outside the theater on opening night. Everyone gets to enjoy the atmosphere the costumes provide and security isn't an issue. I understand their concerns in light of recent events. It sucks that a few maniacs can impact the lives of fun-loving Star Wars fans but it's the reality we live in now. I keep thinking about this and going back and forth on where I stand on it. It's not a simple issue, is it?
     
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    If it don't affect others then it's okay for me.
     
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    Its simple don't give into the fear, nothing good has ever come from that.

    If they want to do something, they can hire an off duty cop or two. My local theater does that a lot.

    Also replace terrorism with mass shooting and the numbers are about the same. Honestly you should be more afraid of dying in a car crash or heart attack on the way to the theater then getting shot.

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    Here is a more relevant chart I just found.

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    Honestly, this ban really doesn't do anything. It doesn't matter what you wear because if someone has there mind set on HAVOC they are going to do it, no matter what. This is sad news...
    I don't want to turn this thread political but we are to PC in society these days.
     
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    right, but for an independent theater are you the one taking the risk or are they? Its not your business or livelihood that's on the line here. If something does happen, and that is a BIG IF, then the theater could be held responsible. Like I said before, im not saying I like it... but I understand why they are doing it. I love cosplay, I cant wait for TFA so I have a reason to dress up with a bunch of Star Wars fans. its still Star Wars and its still awesome.
     
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    feeling that there is a strong security presence is a little bit better than metal detector machines but theatre owners should ask moviegoers what they think would make them feel more secure in their movie going experience too
     
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    Exactly the media wants you afraid so that you watch more news. Everything is some world ending crises. Look at the Ebola deal from last year, how many people that you knew died from Ebola? The media sells fear do not buy what they are selling.
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    And what if a tornado hit the theater or an asteriod, those things are about as likely to happen as a mass shooting. Like I said if they want to be extra careful they can hire some off duty uniformed or not cops. Businesses and theaters do it all the time. It takes a gun to stop a gun. If somebody really wants to shoot up a theater they will simply walk into the theater with a gun and open up, who is going to stop them? Only a good guy or gal with a gun.
     
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    the difference is one of these things can be prevented... or at least we can lessen the chance of it happening.

    I completely understand your point of view. In fact I agree with you on these issues, but this kind of talk has a tendency to get out of hand. We are here to talk about Star Wars, not politics. :D
     
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    Exactly. One can quote statistics until the cows come home but it doesn't change anything for the people ultimately responsible for the safety of their patrons. It's all fine and good if nothing goes down but if something does happen, everything that theater chain did or did not do will be scrutinized very closely. So the big bosses have to choose between not letting people wear masks and bring toy weapons or possibly having blood on their hands. Maybe they're even more concerned with damaging their brand than the blood but I try to not be that cynical. Nobody ever expects to be a statistic until they are one, right?
     
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    Exactly my point. Im not the one taking the risk...
     
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    Imagine the cops dressed as The 501st Legion to rpevent anything from happening, like you said, with the udnercover cops. :D
     
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    Okay I understand. I think my argument has been made and there is really nothing left to say on my part.

    Just the whole agree to disagree on this subject pizzaz.
     
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    Tell that to The Prequel Trilogy.
     
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    Believe it or not youre more likely to die in an accident involving your furniture then die in a terrorist attack.
     
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    January 3rd of this year, I was beaten, head "busted open" (it took 7 stitches to close the head wound).

    What did the assailant assault me with?

    A wooden broom handle, a stick. He was charged (and eventually convicted) with "Assault with a weapon."

    A lightsaber is essentially a "stick"

    I've done Star Wars Cosplay, and had great fun. Good memories (I was Luke for a Return of the Jedi Charity Screening here in 1983).

    But I really don't need props to enjoy a movie, so I'm totally okay with a policy that helps us all feel safer while we enjoy the show.

    Especially in these violent times.
     
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    It's a sticky situation but one worth trying to understand.

    On the micro level I believe it's about safety - although more the safety of the "corporation" and revenue of it's shareholders than the safety of movie goers. In the extremely rare case of an incident, the lawyers - on behalf of the corporate person - would likely have to explain that they applied due diligence and took reasonable steps within their duty of care to mitigate such a scenario.The costs of not being able to prove so could bankrupt the company.

    If it was a question of public safety and creating a contingency plan that included doing everything possible to negate such an event there would be metal detectors, body scanners, multiple sets of doors, x-ray machines and license scanners. Costs that - as Kai pointed out - smaller theater chains would be unlikely to afford.

    The macro view is the old debate of sacrificing freedoms for security. We could let law enforcement enter our homes or search any premise or person at any time without a warrant and likely see some drop in crime statistics. Most people prefer not to live in that kind of society and would rather except a certain amount of risk. The balance is tricky.

    Edit: Surely there's a middle way. Does this mean Comic Con's will have to do the same or can smaller theaters borrow from their systems?
     
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