Luke had his story told, now it's Rey's turn

Star Wars is multiple people's story at once.

The OT was Luke's and Vader/Anakin's story concurrently.

The PT was a massive screwup in terms of execution. Ideally, it should have been Anakin's and Obi-Wan's story concurrently- what, with the story of Obi-Wan's failure with Anakin emphasized as much as the mythology of Anakin.

The great thing about TFA is we know right off the bat that the story already belongs to multiple people. Many are making a lot out of the fact that TFA is Rey's story as the new generation of hero. Folks, TFA made it very clear that this is also Ben Solo/Kylo Ren's story as much as her's. His story and familial ties were central to the plot.

Furthermore, the mythology of Luke Skywalker was also very central in the movie. He went away. Everyone has been looking for him, and for a reason. Snoke is clearly afraid of him. And it is well established that he will be extremely key in the rebuilding of the Jedi Order. And there is the backstory of Ben Solo turning to the Dark Side andhis feeling responsibility for it that will surely be explored. It's kinda obvious that Rey is related to Luke in some way. So from the outset, Luke is going to have a large share of the focus in the story from here on out.

Let's call it a "leading from behind" type of role. But if he has to get busy, he will.

 

they have alot of work in order to do that... they made Kylo look pretty weak at the end of the force awakens, it going to take a lot of work to convince audiences he is a legitimate threat now after how easily he was defeated by Rey.
But i do agree with you i want to see Kylo become powerful and menacing, so he could even be a threat to luke.

I also do still want to see Luke out in the galaxy fighting, not just on the island training, that would be far to simlar to what Yoda did in the original trilodgy.

 

He wasn't "easily defeated' by her, that's the thing.

 

It's the story of life and helps us reflect about how different people live it.

 

It's not really any character's story, per se.

But in the great scheme of things, Star Wars is, above everything, a more tale. And the two central characters of the Star Wars moral tale are Anakin and Luke, and they have equal importance.

Anakin is important because he made the wrong choices that led to the dark side, but also showed the capability of redemption.

Luke makes the right choices and ultimately triumphs in the end, and his character is the embodiment of Star Wars' moral arguments.

As long as one of these two characters is alive in the story, they will have a dominant role.

Now we also have Rey and Ben Solo/Kylo Ren at the center of things.

--- Double Post Merged, Jan 3, 2016, Original Post Date: Jan 3, 2016 ---

It makes no sense for Star Wars to be Finn and/or Poe's story. They are not Force sensitives. The moral narative of Star Wars is always carried by Force sensitivties because the moral narrative always relates to the Force.

Rey is definitely at the heart of things, don't get me wrong. But if she is going to share the story, then it is more sensible that the story is shared by Ben Solo/Kylo Ren. Ben Solo/Kylo Ren was as central, if not MORE central, to the plot of TFA and will remain so going forward, as his turn to the dark side and killing of his father establishes him firmly at the center of things.

Luke embodies the moral narrative of Star Wars, and as long as he is around, he will also remain central to the story. I recall someone involved either in the writing or the art direction commented in the Art book stating that they kept having to take Luke out of scenes for TFA because it felt like he keep dominating the scene, so I think that says something about how the production team views his character. He is still very much a dominant player, and will be for the next two movies. It's just that it will be more of a leading from behind role. And he isn't just around for Rey's sake; he has a broader mission to accomplish to rebuild the Jedi Order and, I'm guessing, to be keeper of the First Jedi Temple (which is something that, presumably, the Jedi cannot afford to lose). He also has a role to play in Kylo Ren's development as a character.

 

+1
Thank you!

Ren is already good at using the force, he is just not fully trained yet. He definitly has the power but not the focus to use the force properly because he is wracked the self doubt and internal conflict.

But I guess the Force is as strong (or even stronger) in him as in Luke- that is the thing I was trying to point out.

 

Maybe the force is stronger with him then with luke, maybe with training he will be stronger then Rey, but these are things that we can only guess on that will have to be addressed in episode 8, they have to build Kylo up to to be a real threat, cos while they made him a very interesting character in The Force Awakens, the defeat by Rey has made him look weak, this has to be addressed and rectified in episode 8, and im sure it will be.

 

Perhaps if Rey had been written as a more complex character, I would care that it was her turn to have her story told. However . . . she is not that interesting.

 

wait that mean's we could see Ezra and Ashoka(if they live) and the baby's from Rebel's!

 

While you do have some good points, Luke did not "renounce" his lightsaber. He lost this one and built his own from scratch, which there is absolutely no reason to believe he doesn't still possess. I can see the case for Luke not fighting in the ST but I would be extremely disappointed and think it would be a huge mistake. There's no reason we can't have Luke and Rey both powerful and facing off against an increasingly powerful Kylo and Snoke, in a similar way to the Anakin/Obi-Wan plus Yoda/Sidious duel at the end of III, except done right! With no bouncing CG puppets this time.

 

You're a wanking idiot!

 

He only looks weak if you ignore everything that happened beforehand.

 

To be fair, Kylo embraced everything that happened before hand and it made him stronger - at least until Rey got him and he was fighting with one arm. Just playing a little Devil's advocate here. What made him look weak though was that Finn, who was a stromtrooper until recently, was even able to touch him with a lightsaber.

Personally, I don't think he looked that weak though. I think the fight was well done.

 

I just want to say the original post is amazing.

Also I have no idea what will happen to Luke. I hope it's unexpected but not dumb.

 

I can't wait to see a scene where Rey constructs her own lightsaber if it happens. No words spoken. We see her building it as she sees fit in silence. Then ....we see the glow of the lightsaber and see rey's face radiating off of the glow...depending on where she is. Maybe in a cave. And we hear the sounds of the ocean...and the whispers of wind.

 

I want this trilogy to focus mainly on Rey, not on Luke. But I want Luke's character to be more complex than most people expect. The idea of him being somewhere between good and evil is very interesting. This could be a good thing (he has achieved a state with the Force that no one has before, and is much more powerful) or a bad thing (he wants to be good, but keeps being pulled toward the darkness). If it is a bad thing, Rey could save him from this somehow.

 

I wholeheartedly agree. If Snoke doesn't get killed off in a betrayal by Kylo Ren, then he's definitely Luke's battle this time around. Snoke poisoned Ben against him and indirectly caused the downfall of Luke's Academy by doing so. While it is undoubtedly Rey's story - what you mentioned is pretty much a similar situation of Yoda vs. Palpatine and Obi-Wan vs. Anakin in EP3 - and that would quite frankly be a showdown well anticipated to cap off this trilogy.

 

i can't decide what would be more satisfying: seeing Kylo Ren deal with Snoke or seeing Luke deal with Snoke or seeing Rey deal with Snoke.

or some combination of the three?

i feel like they all have strong reasons to need to deal with Snoke in order to satisfy "justice" in the story.
ironcially, Rey's got the least beef with him at the moment, but i agree it's her story.

my crystal ball /wishful thinking guess is that it's up to Rey and Ben to topple Snoke and that Luke is going to help them do it.

 

Do you think we'll be getting a 2 vs. 2 split in EP8, or will we get the rematch between Rey and Kylo alone in terms of lightsaber duels?

 

i think in viii. Rey and Ren will have a rematch and she will get her hat handed to her.
she's going to go in over-confident and he's going to trounce her.
i think that'll lead to her needing to be rescued, but also possibly to his capture.

and i don't think Luke is going to fight Kylo Ren. not in any fancy battle.
i don't think Ren is any match for Luke, ultimately.
and i don't think Luke would risk killing him (if he just wanted to kill him, i suspect he would have done it long ago).

what do you think? do you want to see them fight? seems like a lot of people do.