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Making Star Wars Full Synopsis

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by odmichael, May 21, 2015.

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    this whole misinfo stuff keeps coming up because some don't like what is coming out from more credible sources. I'm sorry to be blunt, but this is why people keep bringing it up. Rather than accept what is likely, it's more comforting for them to feel like some shadowy group is manipulating things and what they believe is "right" or "better" is actually the reality. That's why conspiracies in any subject are usually utter nonsense.
     
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    This is a good way of looking at it. I couldn't agree more regarding Rian Johnson.
     
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    I really like @thehiredgun 's full spoiler thingy. I definitely prefer it to MSW's...anything. However I might have missed something while reading, but to @thehiredgun -where do Luke and that cave come from? I mean Luke kinda just shows up.
     
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    They are mentally divergent.
     
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    I'm still not a fan of Luke's lightsaber being the mcguffin. So is Jakku in the Bespin system? If not, how the heck did this lightsaber leave the Bespin system?
     
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    I wouldn't be down on it if it didn't change hands so many freakin' times like it's a damn relay race. I don't like looking at a plot and noticing contrived convolution. That shouldn't happen but it sticks out right away.

    And yeah the saber in teaser 2 appears to be the Anakin/Luke saber that was lost at Bespin.

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    Leia and an alien (probably Maz) participate in The Force Awakens relay race

    I don't know where Jakku is.
     
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    Although Jakku, Tatooine, Hoth AND Bespin are all located in the Outer Rim territories, Bespin is located in a largely uninhabited area of the rim...apparently close (relatively) to Hoth. That being said, I can't find any new galactic maps that represent Jakku, as it's a new canon planet, but Bespin and Jakku may be no where near each other...hell, they might be on opposite sides of the galactic rim for that matter.
     
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    Bespin is near Hoth not very close to Tattooine. There was a map put up here awhile back but it was from the EU that had Jakku listed but not in the outer rim. On the map Jakku was located near an intersection of hyperspace lanes implying strategic significance. But that might not be official.

    As for the Relay race I think you are painting the idea in the worst possible light. They want the sabre in the film because the want to pass on the ANH sabre to the next generation. I think the sabre is going to be minor compared to the search for Luke. It gets found. Events which may not have any relationship to the sabre happen, they find Han. Han sees it and thinks its been awhile lets find Luke.
     
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    If the scenario is true then it goes like this...

    Sabre falls to the ground

    Naka(forgot name) picks it up

    Finn ends up with it

    Han sees it

    Maz takes it

    Tries to hand it to Rey. She won't take it

    Leia takes it

    Finn hangs on to it?

    Finn uses it against Kylo

    Rey uses it against Kylo

    Rey hands it to Luke

    Luke has it again

    I don't believe this all plays out like that. Like it falling from space. Don't believe that.

    My actual belief is Kylo has it all along. Finn's friend steals it as he dies hands it to Finn.
     
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    You forgot to add the start of that: Clan vs. Seven, all get chopped, Maz kanata takes it and flees and it gets lost again. faaaaling. Naka burning down the house... and so on. wow that thing has been through alot.
     
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    oh yeah, forgot about the flashback sequence. I know that sabre has seen it all. It's like Forrest Gump.
     
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    ...and you forgot Poe taking it from the vicar and putting it in bb8.
     
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    I'm not thrilled about MSW's plot outline at all to be honest. Firstly it's a remake of A New Hope, how it took them that long to get that story I'll never understand. The fake rumours were much more imaginative and interesting. Luke's lack of screen time is going to pi55 a LOT of people of, including me, I just don't understand why they'd take this route.

    The duel at the end sounds weak as well. If Finn can survive more than a few seconds against Kylo then he isn't much of a threat as a villain, there's no reason Luke should be hiding from him. Maybe Kylo isn't very far in his training? Well that makes the final duel even more disappointing, 3 amatuers going at it? That's quite a come down from Anakin v Obi wan or Luke v Vader 2. It ending in a draw is even more disappointing.

    Superweapons that aren't even as much of a threat as the Death Star? Yawn.

    Sorry if this sounds negative but this is exactly the hollow, overly safe, soft reboot pure shallow action movie I was hoping we weren't going to get :/ I'm sure it will be fun, it will look spectacular and we'll love the characters but it just feels too weak for Star Wars Episode 7. There just doesn't feel like there's enough at stake, it doesn't continue the story from ROTJ, the villains don't seem a threat and it is just A New Hope with different characters. Almost every other fake synopsis has been much stronger than the real thing!

    I'm keeping everything crossed MSW is being fed misinformation about the third act or some scenes were filmed in absolute secrecy!
     
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    hope and what's happened is two different things unfortunately :(
     
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    It really does seem like a lot of emphasis is being put on the saber, when it is probably just as much of a plot device as the Death Star plans were (although it looks like they are now making an entire movie about that!).

    If Rey is the primary protagonist, then it seems like the saber represents her destiny to become a Jedi and fulfill her family's role almost exactly in the way that the same saber propelled Luke into the story.

    Here is this saber that Anakin used for both good and evil - frequently lost but given back to him by a mentor Obi-wan ("this is your life!"). Then taken away by Obi-Wan and passed on to a reluctant Luke who then loses it himself due to his own impatience (just like dad) and desire to save his friends (just like dad) when he wasn't really ready ... and now here is that same saber finding its way to a reluctant Rey who may or may not know her heritage. She obviously has skill but lacks the desire to get involved - just as Luke echoed uncle Owen in saying that he didn't want to get involved. It may be that she is on Jakku because she knows all this and just doesn't want any part of it. It's not her battle! (but maybe it is her Destiny)

    Regardless of any other flashback or whatnot, if the saber simply represents a call to destiny for Rey as it did for Luke, then it is exactly the same plot device that has been used in both series thus far (from a certain point of view).

    Needing to explain how the saber gets from Bespin to Rey seems to be what JJ might have been referring to when he said that they had too much reference to things and that it can all be pruned down to just the essentials in order to explain that , yes - this is that same saber.

    It is going to become Rey's life just as it has for her elders.
     
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    Why don't you guys wait until you see the movie instead of getting upset over improbable rumors and speculation?
     
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    I admit, I'm also concerned by this plot synopsis. Still, not having dialogue and specific actions means we don't really have a lot of what makes a movie good.

    Here's the one thing that sticks out to me a lot: not only does the final duel seem to be a fight between amateurs, but the ending is VERY anticlimactic, with the ground just shaking and crumbling (from the charges), Finn and Rey falling, Kylo running away, and Chewbacca coming to rescue them.

    It's my hope that what actually happens is that Luke shows up at this point and kicks Kylo's ass (a la Yoda vs. Dooku fight). I think the time Hamill spent in England would be just enough time to shoot a quick fight scene with Kylo...maybe. :-\

    Remember, Mizzlewump, who was accurate on some things, said "Luke saves the day at the end, but in a bad way. He has changed." That could still be true...

    This, I think, is what we all want: http://thecantina.starwars7news.com/index.php?threads/kylo-ren-vs-_________.1542/

    This is an early rumor that got me excited and is fueling my own disappointment: http://www.starwars7news.com/2014/06/rumor-possible-star-wars-episode-7.html
     
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    The teaser and set photos go against this. It's neither in his hand or on his jacket.

    The lightsaber is inside BB-8 at this very moment as the result of Poe Dameron's actions at the village according to the plot outline (which reminds me, I gotta update it on a thread that doesn't get locked...):

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    Maybe instead of seeing the plot points as contrived, we should imagine how they would be explained in the film. In other words, understand the mystery box and the secret links that explain everything.

    For example, I don't think the Millennium Falcon is just laying around for Rey and Finn to jump inside of it. I really do think Rey has been working on the ship with the parts she's been salvaging. Maybe even she stole the MF before the film starts, as the synopsis author here suggested.

    I don't think Han and Chewie are above the planet and left it there to do negotiations up above. That doesn't make sense, since the First Order is up there, too, probably. Instead, I think Rey goes into hyperspace to Coruscant or some place where she thinks they'll be safe and then boom! They encounter Solo at that new location.
     
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    I would love to see the source material for this synopsis, maybe without all the ridiculous speculation it actually makes some sense, is there any link available for this?
     
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