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Making Star Wars Full Synopsis

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by odmichael, May 21, 2015.

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    I've speculated about the possibility of when Han Solo says "Chewie, we're home" it's a double meaning while he is staring down Rey and her unknown companion. Rey is home as much as the Falcon. Like Ricky Ricardo saying "Lucy! I'm home" on I Love Lucy. It's possible she stole the ship like Kirk stole his stepfather's corvette in Star Trek 2009.
     
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    we need more official information soon because these rumors are i think are starting to turn people off. i told my friends who aren't huge star wars fans like me, but are excited to see a new star wars movie and they said it was the stupidest thing they have ever heard. they made one of the same points i did, that is some of the most creative people in the movie business are working on this movie and this is the best they could come up with? playing galactic hot potato with old lightsaber
     
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    Right, but I think the stealing isn't when she and Finn escape Jakku. I think the stealing took place a while before the movie starts. Because why would Han leave the Falcon on some dusty planet? And why would he be above said planet while the First Order is there too?

    I think what happens is Rey is escaping with Finn and says "let's get on this ship I've been working on." And then Finn is like "this ship is a mess!" And the audience is surprised that the ship she's been working on is the MF. And that creates a mystery to be unravelled later, in terms of how she got the MF to work on (I think this is a step into the revelation that she's Han's daughter).

    The lightsaber spinning in space thing, though, makes no sense to me.

    Something I've been thinking about today--if Rey grew up with the Vicar, maybe Poe is trying to deliver the lightsaber to the Vicar or to her, unknowingly, rather than picking it up. In other words, he shows up to see the Vicar and give the lightsaber to him, so that he can pass it on to whomever or use it himself. But then the First Order shows up and the Vicar is killed (nixing that idea) and Poe sends the lightsaber with BB-8.

    Perhaps the Vicar/Poe tell BB-8 to go find Rey. That would be better than him coincidentally finding her.
     
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    I find it really strange how there is such a difference between opinions on MSW breakdown and the excitement from the teasers. Especially from folks on here who are right up to date with the spoilers.

    I haven't heard one bad thing about the teasers, yet they have confirmed huge chunks of the story beats that most credible sites are reporting. There seems to be a strange disconnect forming.
     
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    If Rey stole the ship it would be a nice parallel to the scene where Kylo sits inside the ship. I mean, the contrast between brother and sister and their relationships to that ship.

    The teasers are beautifully shot and edited, but don't give away the plot.

    The plot that MSW is revealing sounds lame and contrived to many.

    Yes, there's a disconnect forming, but it's not baffling why.

    The worry is that SW7 turns out to be pretty and well acted but also incoherent with contrivances and plot holes.
     
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    Why would there be any stealing at all? Isn't it more plausible that Han just gave the falcon to his daughter?
     
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    People seem to like those Marvel movies and the Infinity Stones. I can't bring myself to care.
     
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    i don't think rey stole the falcon, i think she is han and leia's daughter and han give it to her when she decides to leave and be on her own. i think she has it hidden on jakku and just when they are getting ready to leave that is when the tie fighters attack.
     
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    Han giving the Falcon to his daughter is boring.

    Kira Rey stealing the Falcon is angsty and parallels her more effectively with Kylo Ren, as they struggle with their father's and grandfather's legacy. Again, if Rey steals the Falcon, it will make Kylo's moment when he sits in the Falcon more poignant.
     
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    There is no disconnect the official info and the teasers leave room to build a plot that actually makes sense. The extra information provided from this source doesn't.
     
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    Star Trek 09 depicted what happens when a boy loses his father and dislikes his stepfather. He steals his stepfather's car and wrecks it.

    I think Star Wars 7 will depict what happens to a girl whose parents are divorced and she runs away from both of them. She steals her dad's car and hides away on some planet, basically saying screw both of you. Something similar happens in real life.

    If Star Wars explores a little bit of what children experience in divorce through Kira Rey and Kylo Ren, it could be cathartic for some people.
     
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    i think a better moment would be she goes to steal it and run away but han is there waiting for her then lets her leave with it
     
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    The other parallel is this, what Lucas said about Indy's kid in Crystal Skull:



     
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    You lost me, are you saying she stole it from Han or from someone on Jakku? I agree if you mean from Han it's possible, the other option sounds too contrived.
    Regarding Kylo I don't adhere to the idea that he is related.

    Nevermind I saw your next post.
     
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    Oh yes, absolutely. I avoided that movie like the Plagueis, so that's what I didn't think of that. But it makes sense.

    It would be interesting if Rey takes more after their father and Kylo more after their mother.

    She stole it from Han a few years ago and ran away to Jakku.

    I think Kylo has to be related to one of the old heroes for his villainy to have juice. Plus, MSW's rumors point to him being Han's son.
     
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    That doesn't mean anything. Yes I imagine it is with BB8.
    Only cause I forgot to add BB8. Either way, Finn still holds it.
     
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    I finally have the time to read through the rumor synopsis. Two things that stood out to me:

    1. Luke spent the entire movie hiding out on an island somewhere. This just seems so inconsistent with what we know about Luke's character from the OT. In ESB he interrupted his training to go to save his friends. In ROTJ he went alone to confront the emperor and try to save his father. In TFA he's staying away and letting the First Order do whatever they want to do? This doesn't make sense.

    2. In previous movies, whenever the "good guys" win at the end, the main protagonist always performed the critical act that brought about the victory. In TPM, Anakin destroyed the space station. In ANH, Luke destroyed the Death Star. In ROTJ, Luke convinced his father to kill the emperor. But in TFA, neither Finn nor Rey seemed to have performed a critical act during the climax. They helped planted the charges, but that was before Kylo Ren showed up. They fought Kylo Ren, but by then the superweapon had already been destroyed, and so the lightsabre battle seemed anti-climatic. According to the rumor, Kylo Ren was running away, and so it wasn't like Finn or Rey had to fight him in order to escape. Perhaps the rumor wasn't entirely correct, in that the heroes didn't finish planting the charges, and so Finn and Rey had to fight Kylo Ren in order to give Chewie and BB-8 the time to finish planting and to detonate the charges.
     
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    Well, either Luke was away while the First Order successfully arose or he was around while the First Order successful arose. Either way it kind of makes him look useless.

    I agree that it's weak sauce as written so either it sucks or necessary detail is missing.

    And the article that kicked off this thread also is drawing from concept art that MSW didn't talk about on the shooting outline. Here's another example:

    This is the article it's based on. That last line is concept art. It's not in the article. And concept art and shooting logs aren't the same thing.

    I wish this article stew wasn't published. In some ways it's just going to confuse people even more. Kylo Ren looks like in teaser #1 he's mad and stalking his prey. You'd get the opposite impression if you read this fan article.
     
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