1. Due to the increased amount of spam bots on the forum, we are strengthening our defenses. You may experience a CAPTCHA challenge from time to time.
    Dismiss Notice
  2. Notification emails are working properly again. Please check your email spam folder and if you see any emails from the Cantina there, make sure to mark them as "Not Spam". This will help a lot to whitelist the emails and to stop them going to spam.
    Dismiss Notice
  3. IMPORTANT! To be able to create new threads and rate posts, you need to have at least 30 posts in The Cantina.
    Dismiss Notice
  4. Before posting a new thread, check the list with similar threads that will appear when you start typing the thread's title.
    Dismiss Notice

SPECULATION Master Codebreaker Theory

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by McDiarmid, Dec 19, 2017.

  1. Luke-saber

    Luke-saber Rebelscum

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2015
    Posts:
    56
    Likes Received:
    77
    Trophy Points:
    757
    Credits:
    604
    Ratings:
    +125 / 1 / -0
    Speaking of which, where did the Raddus suddenly come from? Was it hiding in the asteroid field??

    And how did this pitiful band of Resistance fighters get their hands on such a ship? Was it a retirement present for Leia, when she left the senate?
     
    • Like Like x 1
  2. Bandini

    Bandini Jedi Commander

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2015
    Posts:
    4,862
    Likes Received:
    5,539
    Trophy Points:
    87,267
    Credits:
    9,228
    Ratings:
    +10,282 / 461 / -131
    So why did she take over after Leia ? A lottery ?
     
    • Like Like x 1
  3. DailyPlunge

    DailyPlunge Coramoor

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2016
    Posts:
    4,367
    Likes Received:
    15,471
    Trophy Points:
    146,267
    Credits:
    14,993
    Ratings:
    +20,614 / 309 / -97
    This is explained in the film. Leadership was was wiped out except for Leia. Chain of command fell to her.
     
  4. Bandini

    Bandini Jedi Commander

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2015
    Posts:
    4,862
    Likes Received:
    5,539
    Trophy Points:
    87,267
    Credits:
    9,228
    Ratings:
    +10,282 / 461 / -131
    Of course, she's vice admiral ... It's not a rookie rank.

    At least, she's Poe's superior and Poe had access in the war room.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  5. DailyPlunge

    DailyPlunge Coramoor

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2016
    Posts:
    4,367
    Likes Received:
    15,471
    Trophy Points:
    146,267
    Credits:
    14,993
    Ratings:
    +20,614 / 309 / -97
    I'm not gonna continue this silly argument any further. :D
     
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
  6. Bandini

    Bandini Jedi Commander

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2015
    Posts:
    4,862
    Likes Received:
    5,539
    Trophy Points:
    87,267
    Credits:
    9,228
    Ratings:
    +10,282 / 461 / -131
    Sure, it's a deadend. But you can put that aside, there's still a lot to go.
     
  7. DailyPlunge

    DailyPlunge Coramoor

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2016
    Posts:
    4,367
    Likes Received:
    15,471
    Trophy Points:
    146,267
    Credits:
    14,993
    Ratings:
    +20,614 / 309 / -97
    Love ya @Bandini, sorry you didn't enjoy the film as much as me.

    It's pointless to the argue something that's simply a matter of taste. There's no accounting for taste.
     
    • Friendly Friendly x 2
  8. Bandini

    Bandini Jedi Commander

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2015
    Posts:
    4,862
    Likes Received:
    5,539
    Trophy Points:
    87,267
    Credits:
    9,228
    Ratings:
    +10,282 / 461 / -131
    We had that kind of discussion about Rey's parents at the start of ep VII, I've nothing against anyone, you know it :D

    Good for you you liked it ( even if I don't understand ) but I really don't and it's funny because I was telling people before the movie to stop complain and I can't help complaining since a week !


    A good lesson for me :D
     
    • Like Like x 1
  9. Sal

    Sal Clone Trooper

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2017
    Posts:
    53
    Likes Received:
    73
    Trophy Points:
    67
    Credits:
    449
    Ratings:
    +124 / 7 / -4
    I just made the assumption they were pushed out by a mechanism ,rather than simply dropped.
     
    • Like Like x 4
  10. Bandini

    Bandini Jedi Commander

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2015
    Posts:
    4,862
    Likes Received:
    5,539
    Trophy Points:
    87,267
    Credits:
    9,228
    Ratings:
    +10,282 / 461 / -131
    Yes but with no gravity, you drop satellites ... Since it gets in the vacuum ...

    Maybe they were magnetized ( I'm giving a plausible answer ) but it is not very clever to replace Y Wings with ships that have to come that close to the enemy.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
  11. DailyPlunge

    DailyPlunge Coramoor

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2016
    Posts:
    4,367
    Likes Received:
    15,471
    Trophy Points:
    146,267
    Credits:
    14,993
    Ratings:
    +20,614 / 309 / -97
    You were certainly right a about that and convinced me she was a no one.
     
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
  12. Sal

    Sal Clone Trooper

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2017
    Posts:
    53
    Likes Received:
    73
    Trophy Points:
    67
    Credits:
    449
    Ratings:
    +124 / 7 / -4
    Thats my reasoning though. they had to get so close because the bombs are simply pushed out with a bit of force, enough to collide them with whatevers right there.
     
    • Friendly Friendly x 2
  13. TheGreyandTheRed

    TheGreyandTheRed Rebel General

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2017
    Posts:
    482
    Likes Received:
    663
    Trophy Points:
    4,442
    Credits:
    2,397
    Ratings:
    +1,178 / 17 / -5
    However the telekinesis, telepathy, FTL travel (which is scientifically impossible), crystal powered weapons and shooting lightning from fingertips are all just small scientific inaccuracies are they?

    Oh and they were using their fuel accelerating to keep them out of range. If the cruiser didn't accelerate and Snoke's ship did they'd get caught. So no, its not an inaccuracy or a plothole.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  14. McDiarmid

    McDiarmid Force Sensitive

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2016
    Posts:
    3,481
    Likes Received:
    3,898
    Trophy Points:
    12,517
    Credits:
    6,786
    Ratings:
    +7,941 / 410 / -137
    Nice Force powers and fine addition for the new canon

    For the consistency I guess you agree with me they should than made addition to canon that post TLJ space vacuum in Star Wars behaves like fluid, draging ships so ships must spent fuel to cruise in space otherwise they will....stop?

    [​IMG]
     
    #34 McDiarmid, Dec 19, 2017
    Last edited: Dec 19, 2017
    • Like Like x 1
  15. Withred

    Withred Rebel Official

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2017
    Posts:
    1,039
    Likes Received:
    1,434
    Trophy Points:
    5,567
    Credits:
    1,659
    Ratings:
    +2,263 / 22 / -18
    Rian should've just made reactions for Reylo Titanic ship the new fuel. Cringing sounds would've powered them forever.

    Also new force "GOD MODE POWER" (people get giant and have super strength) and have Luke and Snoke go at eachother like Godzilla on Crait. Would've been entertaining.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Funny Funny x 1
  16. TheGreyandTheRed

    TheGreyandTheRed Rebel General

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2017
    Posts:
    482
    Likes Received:
    663
    Trophy Points:
    4,442
    Credits:
    2,397
    Ratings:
    +1,178 / 17 / -5
    No there's no natural deceleration in space. There's no force acting on a moving object therefore it will continue at its current velocity unless an opposing force is applied.

    The raddus is being chased by the FO fleet. If they dont burn their fuel to accelerate the craft then they will continue at the same velocity allowing an accelerating FO ship to catch them. Its not astrophysics its common sense.

    If one object is accelerating and the other isn't eventually any distance between them will disappear.

    You were wrong, there is no plot hole.
     
  17. McDiarmid

    McDiarmid Force Sensitive

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2016
    Posts:
    3,481
    Likes Received:
    3,898
    Trophy Points:
    12,517
    Credits:
    6,786
    Ratings:
    +7,941 / 410 / -137
    Fantastic.

    So the Raddus and chasing FO fleet accelerate at entirely same peace for almost entire movie thats why they are burning the fuel?

    Damn, this is genius, must see this 93 % rated film by critics movie again right away.



    BTW this actually could have get away just by not mentiong fuel at all, the fuel problem should actually not be the problem at all, it could have been the time, not fuel. For instance, slow loss of structural intergrity of the ships due to First Order constant barage (this will add some meaning to idiotic useless FO barage on rebel ships during the entire film long chase).... but they are simply so stupid to make this cheap fuel thing anyway and make historic blunder in 300 M $ budegt film .
     
    #37 McDiarmid, Dec 19, 2017
    Last edited: Dec 19, 2017
  18. TheGreyandTheRed

    TheGreyandTheRed Rebel General

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2017
    Posts:
    482
    Likes Received:
    663
    Trophy Points:
    4,442
    Credits:
    2,397
    Ratings:
    +1,178 / 17 / -5
    Are you being deliberately obtuse just to piss me off? Who said they are accelerating at the same speed?

    The objective of the raddus was to KEEP THE FO OUT OF RANGE and not piss all their fuel up the wall at the same time. Astrophysics doesn't come into it, its common sense. They didn't have enough fuel to escape, their only chance was to keep the FO out of range for as long as they could.

    If you still don't understand, have a 12 year old explain it to you.
     
    • Like Like x 3
  19. A Few Luke Screws

    A Few Luke Screws Rebel General

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2015
    Posts:
    371
    Likes Received:
    545
    Trophy Points:
    3,747
    Credits:
    2,362
    Ratings:
    +918 / 28 / -9
    YOu have to burn fuel in order to accelerate in a vacuum. If the resistance ships had simply remained at a constant speed, and the FO burned fuel in order to accelerate, the FO would have closed the gap. so assuming the FO is burning fuel to close the distance, the resistance would have to accelerate at the same rate as the FO to keep that cushion.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  20. DumDum2.0

    DumDum2.0 Rebelscum

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2015
    Posts:
    19
    Likes Received:
    8
    Trophy Points:
    692
    Credits:
    689
    Ratings:
    +18 / 4 / -0
    Not sure why this thread isn't front and center. Any thoughts on the MC? was kinda of a big plot point, no? stand in for JJ perhaps?
     
Loading...

Share This Page