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New LEGO Leak: Snoke, Heavy Walkers, Resistance Bombers and More

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Rieekan, May 26, 2017.

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    Yea it is "complex" manouver of moving some happenings from ep 2 into 1, and from 1 into 2.

    About walker scene, I am afraid you are mistaken about great many things, battle of Hoth is in "Empire", "act 2" , I am sure in this from my age of 9, and in act 2 of Sequel trilogy,
     
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    Regarding the aesthetic of TPM, I recall an interview with Lucas where he discussed this. He said (paraphrasing here) that when Luke told 3PO that if there was a bright center to the galaxy, you're on the planet it's furthest from, he wanted to show that bright center.
     
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    No sir, the battle of Hoth is in act 1. You see people are very creative when they try to fit a square peg in a round hole like they did with the ANH-TFA comparison when they ignorantly branded the latter a rehash. Seeing those same constructs resurface for the Last Jedi is hilarious at best, and annoying in particular.
     
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    Film structure is a thing that, while meant to be objective, can certainly be debated. I tend to agree with you, though, I think Hoth was Act 1.
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    I'd read it as this- everything on Hoth is the set up. We establish the "ordinary world" of the Rebels on Hoth. Luke learns of Yoda. Flirting between Han and Leia.

    Then BOOM- the Empire invades, the Rebels are seperated, and everyone leaves the planet- plot point 1, and now we're into Act 2.
     
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    Ah, now I understad you think on that. Well maybe this will help, the information I have about TLJ "Hoth":

    Panet name is Crate. It is a salty, flat , uncharted planet.
    It holds abandoned Rebel base from original trilogy.
    That base is now used by the Resistance.
    The Resistance uses "scrapers" to extract valuable red mineral from the surface of the planet, by which Resistance funds itself.
    The battle is between First Order Walkers and this Resistance"scrapers".

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    Oh, I'm very aware of how some people think this is a rebranded Battle of Hoth.

    Thing is, we know basically only those things that you've listed about it (and even then, much of it is rumor). Basically, people see a white looking planet with Walkers on it, and it's become this controversy.

    I don't think it's wrong to draw comparisons- after all, there are some similarities so far, and analysis is always fun. But I don't think it's even close to time to be worried about anything yet.
     
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    I'm confused. Are you guys talking about Act 1, Act 2, Act 3 in terms of each movie in a trilogy?
    Act 1 = ANH as example. Act 2 = ESB


    Or in terms of within 1 movie itself?
    In RotJ, for example Luke is on Tatooine in Act 1. Returns to Dagobah in Act 2.
     
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    The latter one - acts within a film.
     
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    As a SW fans we should aknowledge they are now trying to compete with the great work of art, a touch of genius, which is the film Empire Strikes Back. It is hard to resist, and in fact to evade been influenced by such epic acheivement.

    Original Star Wars was groundbreaking film, anlike anything else ever seen before.

    However, what made Star Wars franchise this what it means today, was a second film. Second Film always has most difficult task, to prove First film was not just pure luck or brief lonely spark of genius , though in vast majority of cases second film in serries never reach that expectations.

    Empire Strikes Back did not reached expectations,.... it destroyed everything that was ever seen, a mesteripiece that made some people literally pee in their pants when Vader said "No, I am your father".

    TLJ has immensly difficult task to fight agains TFA, to proove it can be as good or beter, and to repat TESB acheivement as a second film in trilogy. Well, it is difficult to resist to take that shield, and sword, and armor of that Titan they have in their lore....isnt it?
     
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    Don't you remember all the red dust on Hoth?!?!?
     
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    It was a snow flakes , definitely not red dust. And support low flying rebel ships with detach cabels, defending secret rebel base from a phalax of Imperial Walkers.

    Now its salty planet with low flying reistance ships that have detach extensions on their belly used to scratch the planet ( and maybe something else to), defending a former secret rebel base from a phalax of First Order Walkers.

    [​IMG]
     
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    But they've never made any use of snow, neither Rebels nor the Empire.
     
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    The people who have already decided it's a remake 6 months out will use any bullspit they can conjure up. He won't like it and that's sad for him.
     
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    I didn't said ti is a copy paste. Its a memes. Conscious and subconscious imprints they are using to evoke memories in people .
    I dont say it is bad.

    I hope this time they will make better looking explosion of Field generator on a salty planet, blowing up one on Hoth was rare scene in TESB that was somewhat unimpressive...

    ....someone thinks I am joking?

    Satly planet surely has a protective energy shield, that is the only reason to make ground attack instead of orbital bombardment .

    [​IMG]
     
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    Amen to that.

    I hope he made Sea monster Rey is fighting against more compeeling than Ice monster that was battling Luke in his moment of challenge, after that challenge in Hoth cave Luke had a revelation trough Force Spirit of Ben, and Rey will have its own revelation(reportedly) after battle with sea monster...

     
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    Rey will tame the beast, making it an ally.
     
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    You mean like Anakin in the Geonosis arena.that's why I guess I posted video.."good Job"
     
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    Alright guys, here's my theory-

    The planet (Crayt, or whatever it ends up being called) is covered in salt. This is meant to symbolize the saltiness of the fans who, no matter how this film turns out, will try to discredit the entire thing as a TESB ripoff.
     
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    That's actually correct. Lucas has noted on numerous occasions his decision to show a bright universe and glowing Republic before the time of the original Star Wars, including the exact quote you provided. And those designs and subtle allusions to the inevitable transition toward the dark side created a beautifully coherent saga.
     
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