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But he is so much useful for Palps judging from the novel. Palpatine recognizes Thrawn's know-how about Unknown Regions. I think, hope, they will not waste Thrawn to be killed in some battle with rebels. It is possible he will face defeat against rebels, and after that Palpatine will send him to do something in the Unknown regions, I mean I hope that.

From the novels , we have 2 not coincidental facts now I think:

1. Palps gradualy becames obsessed with Unknown regions..
2. And he gets new "employee" the Thrawn ,who cames from that regions and knows much about them.

Strange if they introduced Thrawn only to end in some battle with rebels instead to get some role in the "unknown regions issue", which is the topic of the Sequel trilogy.

 

Laura Dern playing Vice Admiral Holdo..

Maybe it's like Hodor from GoT

Hold on Poe
Hold Poe
Holdo

 

I concur this movie is starting to get packed. Getting that same feeling I did about the 'No Luke' leak 2 yrs ago.

 

They have 2 possibly 3 teams running around I think she still has space. For all we know Finn and Rose are on her ship meeting her contact DJ.

 

Story dynamics does have, it seems ,some Empire Strikes Back setting at some points,
starts with probabaly First Order strike on rebels , than friends split-up in groups,
Like Luke to Dagobah (Rey is already on her "dagobah" with her master),
Han+ Lea go to Bespin , kis kis,, villains chase them, get to Bespin meet Lando,
we will have Finn and Rose (maybe some kis kis to) go to Dubrovnik instead Bespin, meet DJ instead of Lando, and that kind of stuff.

End we even have a plateus with frontal attack of the phalanx of Imperial walkers in both films.

 

Both flms have flatlands - TLJ is a remake of TESB confirmed.

 

I think they're trying to trick us into thinking it will follow the same plot as ESB, only to surprise us when the movie FINALLY comes out. I think there are similarities, yes, but Star Wars is like poetry, it rhymes.

 

Remake of TESB will hardly be the worst thing that can happen to sequel trilogy.

I mean I think they would again to some degree use psychology of memes, and imprint some memes from the second movie in original trilogy (Empire), just like they did with the TFA and New hope.. The recipe worked.

DJ is Lando meme, check..

Finn and his girlfriend go to Sea city, while Lea and Han gone to Cloud city. Both pairs will develop some romance.,and than suffer.

Rey will receive teachings from Luke on Ahch-To, and Luke received one from Yoda on Dagobah, with mystic approach in both films and far from civilization.

Luke had his cave of challenge faliure, and we already see Rey is breathing after her challenge faliure during the training...

Kylo will fight Rey and defeat her and ask her not forcing him to kill her (edge of cliff near the sea), than we will have shocking revelation moment of some kind like Kylo- Luke never told you what happened to you parents...Rey-he told me enough , he told me that you killed them, Kylo-No, he killed them, .....and Rey will cry...no, that's not possible.....search your feelings and you know it to be true...Rey you dont know your importance , supreme Leader has foreseen you can destroy him, ...come with me, and together we can rule the galaxy as hausband and wife..Rey-.No, I like nice men...Kylo...I am a nice men.--

 

I was thinking about this after I hit post and I think I figured out where she is: she's playing the slots in the casino! She's bound to have an insurance policy on that old watering hole. So as the elderly do she's drawn to blow that windfall in the Vegas of Star Wars.

 

When I think of Rian Johson film, I think of defying expectations. His first film Brick is a great film noir but set in high school. Brothers Bloom at first appears to be a light, quirky comedy but the end of it is a surprising downer. Looper at first to be a sci-fi action film, one of many but when we first meet Emily Blunt's character it actually turns into a family drama. What I think the final film will be like is that at first glance it would appear similar to Episode V but at one point the formula will be broken and the film will ultimately end up to be quite different than Empire.

 

That's what I'm foreseeing as well. If anything, I could see it kinda satirizing itself/TESB. Like Han saying, "How do we blow it up? There's always a way to do that," in TFA. I've also read a lot of interesting theories about how the Resistance/FO conflict goes, so interested to see if any of those come true. (In fact, I think the one I want to see happening originated from this thread!)

 

Now, joke aside,. Someone mentioned Maz and where it fitts.

Maz Kanata is more than 1000 years old and I believe she is Consecrated Eremite who exiled from Jakku 1000 years ago and is acting a pirate queen for ages keeping her eye on evil darksiders.Maz Kanata is Consecrated Eremite !

 

You may think I'm a fool, but I believe that, if there weren't any references to the OT at all, the fans would not fully enjoy the movie.

Ok, maybe Abrams went too much into the "remake way", even if TFA is not a remake, but don't forget that Star Wars is essentially the original trilogy, so every other movie has to deal with that legacy, both respecting and fearing its shadow. When Lucas did Ep1, he went too far from the original aesthetics, and despite some new fan would burn himself to demonstrate that TPM is "better than TFA", that movie quite didn't seem like SW, because of its too "original" look.

 

I have to disagree with that, the Prequel Trilogy is inherently Star Wars. Lucas was very clever in adapting the aesthetic and sensibilities of a larger galaxy while playing to the base rules established in the original trilogy. I do believe The Force Awakens played it far too safe, given it's thirty years after Return of the Jedi, but so little has changed.

Each trilogy represents a touchstone for a new generation of fans, and that determines what is Star Wars. For my daughter; she loves the prequels, and she loves The Force Awakens, but she didn't grow up with the films, per se, her introduction was The Clone War animated series.

I believe every Star Wars trilogy needs to establish its own distinct identity, and the sequel trilogy has yet to accomplish that. There is a lot of room for growth, but Lucasfilm cannot hinder themselves to try and capture forty year old nostalgia, Lucas certainly didn't, and the prequels were successful because of it.

 

Maz might have the same screen time as in TFA...like 5 minute

 

I agree for Eps 2 and 3. But Ep1 was way too far from the original aesthetics, and even Lucas changed his mind, giving Ep2 a darker tone and a more recognizable look.

 

Interesting. This is actually quite the inverse of what a lot of fans (including myself) feel. Could you expand on how you think the prequels still captured that Star Wars essence? I'm genuinely curious.

 

That's actually inaccurate, Lucas didn't change his mind, it was quite clever and the opposite; The Phantom Menace was the earliest point in the saga's timeline, prior to war and mass corruption from the Dark side. Through the aesthetic of TPM George and his designers were able to create a visually distinct part of the saga, as Episode II, and further into Episode III, evolved into a galaxy ravaged by the war and the dark side. There was a beauty and a tranquility, reflective of Anakin beginning his journey, that played as a core motif through the prequels. The Phantom Menace couldn't be just another Star Wars, it wouldn't have valued its story then. This was before the Dark Times, before the Empire, and those classic, iconic ships and used design, it had to be earned.

We could argue how Lucas inverted the hero's journey and crafted a tale that rivaled greek tragedy, we could argue the hollow essence as the Force or Jedi, we could even attribute it to the iconic score. Or the same wacky dialogue and characters that just as much existed during the original trilogy. My introduction into Star Wars was A New Hope, perhaps my earliest memory that I still retain, actually. Just as full disclosure, anyway.

The heart and essence of Star Wars is its spirit; every world, every society, is wholly new and unique. Lucas painstakingly created a world in the prequels that had to naturally exist as Star Wars, but evolve the narrative. Aesthetically, it's no different than early automobiles, or the wide range of culture on our very earth. The design was simply beautiful and unique. That deserves applause, as Lucas certainly didn't rest on his laurels for an easy buck; he created a living, breathing world that would change through time and ensuing war. We watched as The Clone War seeds were planted, and how the influence of the dark side and the Empire slowly crept through, fittingly after Palpatine's election to Supreme Chancellor; the eponymous Phantom Menace.

Star Wars has its heart in the struggle between good and evil, the simple beauty of watching a young man evolve into a terrible monster. The prequels, the entire saga, is an imaginative, immersive world of excitement. It's peering through a window and watching creatures and stories you only ever dreamed of. I honestly am not here to define Star Wars for others, when it's so indefinable. But Star Wars, to me, exists in its pure joy, and even in the darkest of moments, there is hope. I can watch the prequels and feel the same way I did when I first watched A New Hope.

It's not one character, one Force, or one musical cue, it's the culmination of design, memorable characters, harrowing choice between good and evil, all backed by a score and sound so precise, it's almost like magic. To think a group of people so wildly diverse and different could create a saga that spanned decades is awe-inspiring, while remaining consistent through design and architecture.

At the end of the day, I'm here because I love Star Wars. It has resonated with me for most of my life, so I am definitely biased, but the prequels captured that same magic that the original trilogy did, and created a whole generation of fans because of it.

 

You do know that setup you mention no longer works precisely because Rey already is with Luke on 'dagabah'. Furthermore, the walker scene from TLJ is in act 3, not 1.