Official Finn Episode VIII thread

Chewie is her good friend too.

But imagine it would be like Boyega said, she'd be happy to learn he's now a "big deal."

 

I just remembered that prior to the release of Rogue One, Kathleen Kennedy has explicitly stated that the difference between Jyn and Rey is that Jyn is meant to be part of a team unlike Rey. So you may be onto something here. It's kind of strange seeing her make all these comments about Rey's independence and importance while ignoring the rest of the characters.

 

Not really, when you consider she might be living vicariously through Rey.

 

Really, I never saw Peeta as a real character. The only thing that mattered to him was Katniss. Like she was his entire existence. I read the books, too. Hated the third book, though.

One of my biggest fears is that Finn would be anything remotely close to Peeta.

 

Besides Beauty and the Beast (2017), Pocahontas, the Cinderella they did with Brandy, Jessica Jones, Ironfist, Spiderman: Homecoming and a bunch of the shows on their channel that has interracial couples (one of which is a cartoon that has an interracial lesbian couple), do you honestly believe that they are concerned about interracial relationships, even for the lead?

Not challenging you. I am honestly asking if you think that after all they have already done that Rey being in an interracial romance as a lead is too much for them.

 

Different product. Never happened in Star Wars and this is still a relatively new product for them. Shouldn't be a big deal but still has not happened yet and Lucasfilm also has a say. Lot of cooks and they are servicing a huge somewhat exciteable fanbase. It shouldn't be a big deal but whether it is has a lot to do with the decision makers. There was backlash over a black stormtrooper of all things

 

Peter Parker's love interest in the latest and very well-liked Spiderman was a non-white girl. How can you say that it doesn't mean anything especially with all of the other examples?

There was a backlash from a small group of hateful folks in comment sections and twitter. It was nowhere near something that any significant amount of people had a problem with. We've had a very popular black member of the Jedi council and Lando is widely loved among the fandom. Whatever "outrage you are talking about was done by idiot racists and internet trolls.

If I am wrong, show me the facts that shows that Finn being a stormtrooper was a widespread issue rather than it being and issue that a handful of idiots had a problem with.

 

I don't think its gonna happen.

--- Double Post Merged, Nov 22, 2017, Original Post Date: Nov 22, 2017 ---

honestly, i remember people just swearing up and down that mace windu was gonna betray the jedi. So much so that GL just came out and plainly said "mace windu is not evil". As for spiderman, you do make a great point about peter's love interests. Even MJ is black, though that is a different wing of the disney brand. I guess the OP should've been more specific in mentioning the depiction of a mixed race coupling within star wars.

 

White guy dating/sleeping with non-white girl is extremely common now. You can't say the same the other way around, as its far more rare.

Burden of proof fallacy.

 

That wasn't MJ, that was Marvel's idiotic idea of a "reference"

 

Cosign...forced representation is not good as the pendulum could swing back in the opposite direction.

 

I think the point that is trying to be made is that this people who get upset about that are a minority (a very small minority) of the Star Wars fanbase. The problem is that news outlets prefer to report on the negative side of things because nothing sells like racism so the originally small group gets blown up to be perceived as much larger then they actually are. Also there are just the trolls. If I remember correctly people were pissed about Han having a wife at all period because they didn't want to "ruin" the relationship of Han and Leia. I genuinely don't remember anyone being angry about Sana because she was black, they were angry at the idea of Han having a wife.

 

My honest opinion about them going their own direction afterward, I don't see it happening unless it's by an external force or necessity like Rey needs more training elsewhere and subsequently Finn does as well.

As far as her reaction, I think it will depend on the meeting. If they meet up under blaster fire, I doubt they will have the opportunity to hug and catch up. If they meet up under safer conditions, then maybe we'll get to see that.

As an aside, I have this magazine below and it caught my eye sitting on one of my tables, placed there by my wife. First, I admit I did a cursory skim as I am about to go watch Valerian before calling it a night, but posting a small section I saw about Finn and I'm curious about thoughts. See scanned section on Finn and Rose below the cover. If the black and pink borders annoy you, that's how it is in the magazine. Edited (3rd time): I wonder how much of this is insider info and/or speculation:

 

That's true, only I didn't want to be the one to say it...so thank you.

 

what is forced representation?

 

I think what he means is forcing a red headed character like MJ to be black instead of simply making an original character (even though she was an original character).

 

Ah. homecoming impressed/surprised me because peter's school looked like an actual school in queens, in regards to the racial make up. They even had a pic of james baldwin on the wall in detention. Making MJ black isn't something i'd see as crazy or controversial at all. I view it in the same line as them making tony stark be captured by arab extremists instead of VCs.

Anyways, thats just my take on the matter. MJ was originally created around the time when practically every comicbook hero and their supporting cast were white. That doesn't represent new york at all.

 

Thank you I was trying to be subtle but there was a substantial freakout about Finn being black in a stormtrooper suit. Even if it represented a small subset of fans it existed and their angst was magnified by its coverage. I can give similar examples of freakouts over black characters who were way less significant than Finn in huge film franchises such as Heimdall (played by a well liked Idris Elba) in Thor and Rue in ( who died anyway) in the Hunger Games. Do you think these reactions are not at least within the thought process if Disney and Lucasfilm marketing department? Again I say it should not matter and I hope it does not but I would be shocked if it did not factor into their thinking even if they ultimately did the right thing and chose to ignore it.

 

I don't mind having a diversified cast but being a longtime comic fan I hate it when they race-change characters. Now the "MJ" in Homecoming wasn't Mary Jane so I found that whole thing to be so utterly idiotic and the movie equivalent of "clickbait" (also her character was really annoying).