Official Finn Episode VIII thread

I think you have a point there!

 

I think there is more evidence that Poe is Force-sensitive, given his mother and father were gifted a Force tree by Luke Skywalker and has unusually exceptional piloting skills. Regardless, I would love to see Poe and Finn become Rey's first students when she attempts to restart the Jedi Order.

 

If they haven't shown any obvious hints at him being FS by now, I think it would be completely ridiculous for him to suddenly do something like use the force to push a FO ship out of the way when his lasers on his x-wing don't work and/or use the force to pick up a blaster when he is pinned to the ground...the same goes for Finn where he wakes up from his coma very fast "because...he force" *THATS NOT HOW THE FORCE WORKS!

 

Plus if he had the Force you think he use it against Kylo.

Granted the Old Rules dont apply because Rey breaks them all.

 

Why would he, unlike Rey, no one told him he had access to it? Also, it's not like they don't have events in TFA that they can use as hints if they decide to go that route for Finn. Besides that, like you said Rey breaks all the rules anyway so it's not like anyone who would have a problem with it could complain.

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Finn has events in TFA that could be used as hints p, Poe doesn't. It would be the ultimate slap in the face to all of Finn's fans, especiallh after the would be bait and switch, to allow every main character access to the force except him.

 

My point is that there was no blatant clue about what finn's FS is so it would be freakin insane to see him suddenly casually use the force without explanation

 

In Before the Awakening, Finn was one of the top stormtroopers in training but had very limited real life combat. He has the raw skills to excel in battle but he is by no means battle hardened. He left behind fighting only to be brought back into it. I think part of Finn's decision moving forward is whether he wants to continue fighting. This time it will be harder because he will have to choose fighting for "good" rather than evil vs not fighting at all. I assume he will decide to fight for the Resistance and as he becomes more battle hardened we should see abilities in battle match those that he demonstrated in training.

 

I think that is where Leia and Maz will come in. Finn will wake from the coma and Maz will confirm it to him, then we will see that Leia did learn some stuff about the force and she and Maz begin to teach Finn (more like Obi Wan in ANH teachings, not Yoda in ESB). If Finn found out and all of a sudden began to use the force I don't think it would be weird as long as what he was doing was proportional to his knowledge, so if he was using low level telekinetic abilities. I think about Luke in ESB, he only received the tutorial mission from Obi Wan but because he had a basic knowledge he was able to focus and try his hand and successfully pull his saber so I think if Finn was doing really basic stuff it would be fine but if he was mind controlling or lifting really heavy things or anything like that than yeah too much.

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Something I actually like about Finn is that he represents a much more realistic soldier, someone who went through all the training and is said to be amazing but then gets into it and is shellshocked by what he experiences. Every WW2/Vietnam movie has the one guy who is great in boot camp but then isn't prepared for the reality of war and I think Finn showed that well and then showed the beginning of the acceptance of it.

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I agree, its not like we needed the force to explain why Han, Lando, or Wedge were outstanding pilots. Leave Poe as the regular pilot character and allow Finn to grow into the FS role.

 

Problem is Poe knows who is parents are and should know about the tree...He is also older then Kylo...ergo Luke should have logically tested him first.
Seeing as Luke and his mother got those trees.

But yes you dont need the Force to be a great pilot.

 

I think the idea is that Finn would represent a normal force user where as Rey is probably going to end up being something like the chosen one, something that would explain the suddenness of her abilities

 

Will Finn kiss Rose in this one? I'd say there is 50% chance of it.

 

But why change it? That's what I'm getting at... is this as simple as Kylo's "moving" face scar (i.e. just aesthetics) or is there some purpose to it that makes sense with the next episode.

On another note: As a Finn fan and a proponent for Finn the Force User, I have to say I am unmoved by the prospect that he has to have an onscreen female love interest. Like his thing with Rey could've simply been a passing phase because they had bonded going through all they did together. Or even if it was more than that, there's enough going on in his life and with events that he doesn't need a love interest to bring out some attribute of his character that we haven't seen.

So I don't care if he doesn't have a thing with KMT or Rey. I do care that he has gravitas going forward.

 

Probably fight aesthetics. It's less believable that a slash across the chest in a battle like he was in wouldn't kill him as that's where all the soft spots are. But a solid swipe on the back could be played off a little better.

 

I can go with the aesthetics argument (kinda), but I honestly don't think a LS to the back would be any less deadly than one to the front. I'd argue that the type of strike (stab vs slash) makes more of an impact. People survive slashes by the LS, I don't recall any that have survived being impaled by one.

 

Then you should be concerned about the romance angle as that would likely dominate his character arc going forward if TPTB are intending to mirror the Han-Leia dynamic of ESB.

I'm personally not that keen on romance being his focus or the focus of the ST in general hence my opposition to Reylo in particular. As to Finn's relationship with Rey, romantic or not, I would be quite disappointed if it was not of some importance to the ST. Outside of damsel in distress moments that is.

 

Well I don't think so. He is pretty much confirmed gay with Poe ( source: http://www.express.co.uk/entertainm...o-is-gay-poe-finn-rey-star-wars-gay-character) . So not only will he not kiss Rose, but be gay with Poe...

And by the way, remember how the original trilogy did a grade A job on making Leia and Han work because of their characters and the given situation, and how it would play into the story amazingly? Well, forget all of that, boys and girls, because PoexFinn is all about equality and diversity! No, I blast you not, Jar Jar Abrams said it himself : "When I talk about inclusivity it’s not excluding gay characters," he added. "It’s about inclusivity. So, of course", because who cares if it doesn't fit the story and could be inappropriate! As long as it sits with us, we will make it fit!

On a serious note though, I am seriously considering not going to see TLJ. Not that I have something against gay people ( not that I agree with them either), but this whole equality and inclusiveness, pandering to SJWs nonsense is really making me question whether Star Wars is even worth it anymore. On the other hand, it's the first generation of Star Wars that I can actually go and see in theaters. I am open to advice on that matter.