Official Hux Episode VIII Discussion Thread

Definitely like the direction things are heading. They could have just as easily made him an Imperial spoiled brat with a gold spoon jammed up his ass. Instead they made him weak willed - which makes him a character vulnerable to the manipulation and ideology of the Empire. The backstory for his character isdecidedly sympathetic rather than condemnatory.

Given that new backstory, I think, these are the two most compelling scenarios (highlighted in bold font) for the following episodes:

- Yes, we are talking about VIII AND IX. Let's keep a little optimism here.

1. Even though Hux is labeled useless, weak-willed, has a stupid name... Despite that all, he became a member of the High Command and blew up 5 planets. What might speak against this is that there is no actual character arc. The character arc is not a subject of matter in the movie, the transformation takes place before the start of Episode VII.

2. There is this theory that Hux killed his own father- a satisfying twist of irony, Brendol killed by the monster he created. It does sound cool, but I guess it's unlikely we get a flashback scene with Hux. I don't know how this could be incorporated into the movie. And again: the actual character takes place before Episode VII... Moreover the new backstory would be counter- productive, because it get us to feel sympathetic for Hux.

Other possible scenarios where no backstory is required/the added backstory isn't essential for the story:

3. Hux wants to become Emperor; fails because the uber bad can't get killed by a "minor" villain. He is set up to fail, regardless of his character traits.

4. Hux is going down with the Finalizer. The only problem: if you can buy Armitage as a Perfect A Exhibit of Brendol's brainwashed cadets, then you can buy him as a "goes down with his ship" kind of guy at the last moment. IMHO, given the new backstory the "loyal to death" scenario might not be a compelling option anymore.

5. Prioritize character over "plot". His backstory becomes integral: What if Hux tries to stand up for himself and becomes rebellious towards the system? What if you proves Brendol wrong " Give me child until they are seven and I'll have them for life"? That could be his character arc.

And the kitchen maid thing is so cliche that i suspect it could be complete bs. Really, I wouldn't be surprised if he has some kind of emotional link with the Resistance.

Let's talk visual storytelling!



The guys on tumblr say it looks like the swirl is going to eat him up. In other words: Jakku might be the death of him. Will the Finalizer crash on Jakku - just like the Inflictor and the Ravager? Another interpretation might be Finn will be his nemesis.

Tumblr pointed out that Hux is faced in blue a lot of the time. Maybe it's just the normal Finalizer lighting or JJ wanted to hint something, I mean it is true - he did play a lot with this kind of visual storytelling.







[picture: Half of his face is in darkness, half is in light, Luke RotJ?]

They way i see it Ben and Armitage are meant to shared similarities - they're both smart, weak-willed, but where Ben had his loving family ( at least he had some positive role-models in his life and was not growing up under totalitarian regime), Hux had this *** of a father. Having in the same character trait and still have different paths and outcome- like it all depends on their environment /upbringing- I think that's the message they were going for.




I’d now like to look at the disney´s villain artictle. It is probably the most biased thing...Someone should go in there and rewrite all that.

http://disneyvillains.wikia.com/wiki/General_Hux

"Grand General Armitage Hux is the main antagonist of Star Wars: The Force Awakens. He is the military leader of the First Order and he attempts to rebuild the empire and rule it. He created a superweapon able to destroy every person, spaceship and planet standing in his way.

History
Background

Childhood
Aftermath: Life Debt
He was born during the destruction of The Galactic Empire, and was a kitchen slave for his father, Admiral Brendol Hux. While he grew up, he only intended one single thing: "control upon the galaxy". One day, Hux heard that The New Republic destroyed The Empire, much to his dissapointment. Hux then retreated with his father to The Unknown Regions, where he, his father and other Imperial Commanders including Snoke built the First Order.

Background
Later in life, he stole Finn and many other children from their houses, and used Supreme Leader Snoke to kidnap Kylo Ren, attempting to use them and force them to rebuild by empire, thus having full control on them through computers. However, plotting to use Kylo Ren as a weapon, he rebuilt the empire with a mega-weapon inside it. That mega weapon converted fire from the sun to other planets. Using Supreme Leader Snoke as his evil vessel, nothing could stop him. The location he made Starkiller Base was a part of The Unknown Regions

Star Wars: The Force Awakens
The Search for BB-8
At first, Hux tried to kill Finn and Po who were escaping. When finding out their ship has crashlanded in Jakku, he sent spies to follow them. Kylo Ren told him to show him the locations of Luke through the map. However, Hux disagreed, reminding his high rank among Snoke. Informing Supreme Leader Snoke that the weapon is almost ready, so he can finish plans and find R2 D2, he has proven to him that Ren is no use at all. Snoke asked him to oversee preparations, and gave him a green light on his evil scheme. Hux leaves the hologram room, while Ren stays inside.

The Rage of General Hux
Hux then introduced his weapon to his Stormtroopers, while he had auditors controlling his Stormtroopers and his mega-weapon. Hux stated it will be the end of a regime which aqquiacies to disorder made by the "loathsome Resistance". After the speech, he ordered his auditors and even Supreme Leader Snoke himself to fire the weapon on the Hosnian Prime star system. Snoke did so in fear, as the weapon of Hux's has destroyed billions of people.

Hux got Kylo Ren and some stormtroopers to find the location of the Resistance Base. When Hux got the information, he stated that Kylo Ren admitted the droid is no use anymore on his report, and that the scheme he made up will destroy them before they reach Luke Skywalker. Snoke agreed, but told Kylo Ren to bring Rey to him, so he can handle her.

The Collapse of Starkiller Base
After that, he prepared the machine on conditions of a 15 minute load and supreme strike. However, using information from Finn, the Resistance planned to destroy Starkiller Base's thermal oscillator, in order to destroy it, by using their star-fighters. Hux tried to stop them, however, it was too late when the thermal oscillator blew up. As Starkiller Base collapsed, Hux prepared for retreat, and plotted with Snoke to take Kylo Ren with him, so they can complete his training, and use him as a factor for rampage and control.

Personality
General Hux is an evil tyrant who rules with an iron fist. He will attempt to kill anyone to get what he wants: power and money. He seems to be bitter to his minions, as he screams at the stormtroopers and takes control of every action on theirs by force. He seems to have trained Kylo Ren ruthlessly and strictly, without even considering his plans to support. Egoistic as he is, his methods to rule the universe and destroy any goodness are on top of all, and he has no remorse to anyone.

Even to his ally Supreme Leader Snoke, he is extremely manipulative and advanced as he uses his "green lights" to do what he wants, even brainwashing him into destroying the republic and using him as a vessel to convert the world to darkness. He was willing to kill billions of people, murdering children, babies, and the elderly, and vandalizing their homes, just in order to achieve his goals."



Right, let’s move on to something different.


Why is General Hux all starship focused? Grand Admiral Hux would make more sense, right? - It is because he was trained in the Army and not in the Navy and then got transferred?

And why does General Hux claim "full responsibility" for the defeat at Takodana? Is it because Hux was indeed the director of the Takodana mission?

SCRIPT

General Hux " Surpreme Leader, i take full responsibility for th -"... Snoke:" General... Our strategy must now change..." ​

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Think of Hux as having a political assignment rather than a military one. He is a general, that is his rank in the FO army, but he is also appointed to a "cabinet position" that gives him control of the FO Military (that also includes Navy and Special Forces, Source Wookieepedia).

Inspired by a discussion with the FUNN BRIGADE , @Alamact came up with a set of questions

• Why is General Hux a General, and not an Admiral, considering he spends most of the movie in command of a star destroyer, and not a ground assault?
• Why *doesn't* General Hux lead the Battle of Takodana with Kylo Ren considering the fact that he's a First Order General and therefore it is his duty to do so?
• Does this mean his rank is political, and that he was transferred command of the Fleet because the First Order has a shortage of Admirals?
• Do you think more Centrists will join the First Order now that the Republic is in ruin, just for the sake of quelling the chaos?
• Does the unique nature of the First Order present a chance for peace (even temporary) with the Republic at the end of the ST? Do you see this happening in some degree?
• Do you like sand?
• Do you think General Hux likes sand merely to defy Kylo Ren's hatred of sand (inspired by his grandfather yet again)?
• Do you think General Hux will terraform beaches on Arkanis for this exact same reason? #MakeArkanisCoastGreatAgain
• Do you consider the possibility that Millicent Beach will become a major First Order tourism attraction, or will it just end up becoming Millicent's ultimate litter box?

We're asking the IMPORTANT questions here! ... Don't tell me you don't want to have beaches on Arkanis?




Before I end this post I would like to thank the FUNN BRIGARDE- could´t have done it without those well spent hours of brainstorming with @FN-3263827 @Alamact: thank you for providing the bonus round questions!

 

@Grand Master Galen Marek , @FN-3263827 I dare not pretend to question the motive behind the actions taken by General Hux, I have faith that what some might see as failures or mistakes are, in reality, well orchestrated steps...