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Official Leia Organa Episode VIII Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by MagnarTheGreat, Feb 29, 2016.

  1. Jedi MD

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    The prevailing theory is that it is KMT's character on the "space horse" with Finn. There has not been any definitive evidence that Rey is in that location. Also, if it is a funeral for Han (or the Republic) it would likely be early in the movie. One of the clapboards put it approximately around the time in TFA of them going to Takodana. Rey is on Ach-to. It is not likely she is going to leave Ach-to for a funeral then go back to Ach-to.

    If it is a funeral which I still don't buy, then Rey is not there.
     
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    I would buy a memorial for those lost at Hosian Prime. I can't imagine having one huge one just for Han.
     
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    does any one think she should die in 8, i couldn't help feel they had wheeled in the local bag lady when i saw her at the big star wars convention, with her dog with the messed up tongue.
    we have made the smooth transition now with hans sacrifice from the old cast to the new. leia was the "sex symbol" in the O.T and as far as TFA plot it made sense to evolve her in to a general, but an aged out sex symbol crazy bag lady feel the movie doesn't need.

    at the most make her exist peripherally and bring in more fresh young actors like fin, rey and poe. and some solid old school actors like max von whatshisface.


    also love carries character study of general leia.
     
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    And awful attitudes like that are why older women have a hard time getting decent roles in Hollywood.
     
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    Isn't she more of a writer and stuff, anyways? It's not like she would get NO work, if Leia dies...right? ?
     
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    You completely missed my point...
     
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    I can't help feel that you missed my point though.

    She wasn't even aware that she was playing a general, to me this is akin to not taking the job seriously.
    starwars has no diversity issues, it has always employed actor based on ability over gender and race.

    But thats not true for leia in this movie, she has not had to qualify for the role based on skill.
    she got the job based on being in the original movies.

    But the dog at every interview is unprofessional, not knowing the role she is playing is unprofessional and these are the people representing the movie.

    Hollywood used to build there stars with incrementally bigger roles, media training and assortment of promotion that depended on image to sell the movie.

    Older women and men (both equally capable) are not the issue, this is a specific issue with carrie fisher, not women as a whole in older roles.
    i choose competent actors who take there role seriously and bring something to the movies i enjoy, not some one looking for a few bucks.

    if having already played the role she still didn't know who she was playing, how her character had aged and developed in to the resistance general, i see no way she could have done more with her character then read the lines and cash a check?

    There are great mature actresses working like meryl streep and the like, so reducing the discussion down to a anti mature actress argument is ridiculous.

    We no leia exists nowl in that universe, let the focus be on the new cast and bring in more new talent.
    Kill Off leia.
     
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    I enjoy her weirdness in interviews, some people like it. She does fine, it even shows in the deleted scenes. She isn't a major character in the films right now, but she has a role in them. Her dog is a certified therapy animal. Lighten up.
     
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    I can't help but feel that she was joking when she said she didn't know who she was playing as it clearly must hae said who she was in the script and shew as explained that "you're playing a GENERAL"
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    She has even made jokes about the General and Princess titles. She is just trying to be funny most of the time.
     
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    She even makes fun of her family members and all as well as her past self...she's just sarcastic half the time and I'm sure she must have explained as much to Disney/LFL PR SO she doesn't get in trouble
    ..
     
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    And it keeps her from spilling stuff or people taking her seriously, honestly, because she is the type that would say the wrong thing accidentally. I don't think she did though, but Ford did before The Force Awakens (mentioning the scene in the forest) by accident.
     
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    im guessing most of you had or still have leia posters up right?

    I'm aware this is the leia thread, i wasn't aware its the leia appreciation society. cool.

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    small addition, so her quirkiness is really a cleaver tactic to throw people off the scent, and help prevent her from spilling the beans. haha
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    like the one where, who was playing a general, you were "i was ?" du dun dun. not an instant classic , maybe its a grower?
     
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    I really get my hairs standing up on my neck when someone disses Leia. While she is shown to be a "thermal detonator in a white dress" most of the time, other times you now they were holding back because she was a woman. I remember somewhere Lucas saying that no one wanted to see a w oman tortured, so things were implied. The things that happened to her were not as addressed, and lets face it, even without seeing the torture we could tell she went through hell, and still had that tough shell that was hard to crack. A way to protect whatever feelings she had left. The only real character arc in the actual movies was that. She kind of went from ice princess to warming up a bit. They just threw it out there "Darth Vader is your father too" never dealt with it, and just left it there. Some of the new books do deal with that a little bit, and it's always been a criticism of the old movies, but the placement of that reveal, and the fact it was the last one, it would have been hard to deal with right there. I really hope they go there a bit more, and I imagine they will a bit in IX, or by IX. I really don't like it when they were criticizing Carrie as well. I know she had problems that first day, but everyone says after that she was fine. She has a past she isn't afraid to talk about, she still has issues (she does have a therapy animal), but she is a survivor. Plus, there is that criticism that was so unfair about her aging, because women are not allowed to age. They weren't so harsh on her aging male costars. We know the sequel trilogy is about the new kids, but the OT characters do have a role as well, even if it is an background, or mentor, or guide, which is what these characters basically are. I liked what they did with Han Solo in the first film, and Luke may have that in the next one. She's a leader in this, but kind of a den mother, and in the Force Awakens was "Home" (Like come home we miss you) a few times when it was mentioned. Home not always being a place.
     
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    I don't think her off screen antics a nd quirkiness has any correlation to her ability as an actress. Is she strange and quirky. Yes. But that's not different then a lot of top billed actors in Hollywood. Most of them are strange birds. They still do good work though.
     
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    Good work?
    Generic line reading is good performance now yeh?
    I might need to at least know where the character is coming from to do a good performance?
     
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    I think it is fair if you criticize her performance on screen. But to say that because of the way she acts off screen is related to her on screen performance is off base. There is no relationship between the two.
     
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    Agreed. It is more likely a setting with high ranked persons of NRP that survived the hosnian attack. And it could be that Leia and all of her resistance fighters will NOT get a warm welcome there. Han for himself went along with his smuggler live before getting killed by his own son. Think of conservative politicians at home and their moral. It could be that our old heros become mistrusted suspects in the opinion of NRP High Society. Perhaps they even try to catch Leia and everyone who stands loyal at her side after the Hosnian desaster. Looking from their perspective, Leia has a long lost brother a well hated villian as father a not less dangerous son and a former smuggler who died a mysterious death on a weapon planet that does not exist anymore. Not much hard facts left for diplomatic ranks keep any faith..
    If Finn is around at such a NR diplomats meeting trying to lurk for infomaterial for Leia and the resistance it could end with a "catch me if you can" scene with Finn and security forces of the diplomatic corps.
     
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    I hope Leia gets a memorable dress & hairstyle for Han's funeral
     
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    I don't know why some feel the need to debate the qualifications of an actress who has been in four Star Wars movies and played one of its most important parts.
     
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