Official Luke Skywalker Episode VIII Discussion Thread

I'm one of those who think the latter is the right answer.
And if Shattared Empire is canon - as it is - I guess we should agree.

 

I agree. I have yet to read Shattered Empire though

 

I can't find this quote or video, but I seen a video where Mark Hamill said"Just because you see Rey training, doesn't necessarily mean Luke is training her."

Of course that could be Mark just being Mark and playing with us, or some kernel of truth in that.

 

Ok, so, try this out...


When I first saw the trailer, and Luke says "it's time for the Jedi to end", I figured that was why he was in exile. "If I go away, no more jedi". It brought to mind the theme of "for evil to triumph, all good men need to do is nothing". But the poster has me thinking. What if he actually goes anti-Jedi? Luke is of the frame of mind that a little dark side can go along way. He figures kylo is already on that path, maybe he could convince him to dial it back a bit, and they could rule together. Snoke has to go, he's all out evil, and kylo keeps getting called to the light, so, "c'mon nephew, let's get rid of that guy and it'll be you and me!".

However, Rey is having none of it. Barely off Jakku, and still pure of thought, she's trying to bring Luke back to the light. Away from that bastard who she watched kill his own father. Hence the blue saber splitting them in the middle.

Just a little fun, whaddya think...?

 

I'd love to see a new take on the Infinities idea, and get new comics based on "what if?" Scenarios for these movies. A Dark Side Luke in The Last Jedi could be one of those.

Because what I'm seeing for the actual movie itself is quite different. I've already mentioned this a few times, but I think the meaning in these teasers is that Rey is the only ray of Light for either/both Luke and Ben. Both have been clouded by the Dark Side, disillusioned, become complacent, given up... Rey is not only serving as the "Luke" to Ben's "Vader", but as the call to action for exiled Jedi Master Skywalker. That's where I see this story going, especially given the old theme of having a retired or exiled hero meet an adoring fan who must bring them out of retirement in order to "save the world". I think making Luke that aged and depressed mentor/hero character will be great on screen, and make for a very compelling and emotional story. It seems a natural story progression for him at this point.

 

Thank goodness Luke is on a poster.. They are headed in a good direction!

 

For sure! I love the poster regardless, but Luke's face on it makes it that much better.

 

Intriguing:

http://makingstarwars.net/2017/05/the-gear-of-luke-skywalker-in-star-wars-the-last-jedi/

 

Luke's all geared up.

 

Does anyone else feel like if Luke never married or had children that his story post ROTJ is too tragic? I mean, Luke wanted to be a Jedi but did he want to be a Prequel Era Jedi? No attachments, family, etc? Did he try that route thinking that was what he was supposed to do and now regrets it? I really want to find out that Luke was successful, happy and loved post ROTJ.

 

He wanted to be what Yoda and Ben taught him to be. But what's more he also loved his friends and his father.

His faith in his dad and compassion for his friends were part of what made him a great Jedi even if Yoda couldn't see it. Its not like the force ghost party was upset with Luke's choice. They posed for the photo op in ROTJ.

We don't know precisely what Yoda and Obi-Wan taught. And even if you dislike the rules of the PT Jedi notice that Anakin broke those rules because of his selfishness and he fell despite the numerous warnings.

 

Marriage itself isn't necessary, but love and relationship tells as much of a story. Does Luke absolutely need that kind of ceremony for validation? I don't think so. But, to think that for thirty years Luke never engaged in a romantic relationship seems incredibly unlikely. The whole act of ROTJ was Luke rejecting the teachings of his Masters, Luke acted emotionally, with love and attachment, forbidden by the Jedi of Old. Luke is, fundamentally, a different man than what the Jedi were raised as at the height of the Old Republic.

I personally believe Luke must have had a relationship and a child, but that doesn't necessarily mean Rey. I don't think Rey has to be Luke's child, but I do imagine Luke having a child. While also fully admitting that nostalgia, the EU, and being a father myself inspires my perceptions on a beloved character. Luke is Star Wars to me, after all.

 

The jilted masters that were sooooo wrong that they posed for the "we did it photo op" at the end when Luke pulled it off. Luke embraced the Jedi not rejected them.

 

I couldn't have said it better. Growing up with Luke, my imagination of the post-ROTJ era was that Luke would have found love, probably during his travels to find and rebuild the Jedi. He would have settled down an raised his child and taught him/her the ways of the force. Not Jedi Order training, but discipline, deep commitment, a serious mind. I always thought Luke cracked the code. He used his compassion and loyalty to his friends and family against the dark side. He had the discipline to stay in the light, knowing when and when not to let go of someone or something.

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They weren't wrong, but their way isn't the only way. Yoda didn't really teach him prequel era Jedi Order doctrine I don't believe. Luke learned from the Living Force trained Yoda, the one that communed with Qui-Gon and knew how to maintain his force identity. He still knew that Luke's path to the dark side would be due to his loyalty to his friends and father. But Luke proved that you can be disciplined and compassionate at the same time. Luke DID prove Yoda and Obi-Wan wrong about Anakin. He proved there is more than one path and not all paths are to the dark side.

 

To be clear I don't mind either way if he fell in love or not I just don't see Luke rejecting Yoda or Ben.

I think people have a level of let down by the prequels that they are using to retcon the OT.

 

Honestly, I never really consider the PT for Luke. To me it was always obvious that Luke succeeded because he stayed true to himself. He didn't listen to Yoda and Ben because it didn't feel right. At the end, Yoda and Ben saw that Luke success was because of his love, compassion and discipline.

 

Luke held out a hope that was beyond Yoda and Obi-Wan. When it happened I think they were instantly happy to be wrong.

 

Definitely. I think Luke is going to be a very intriguing character in this movie. I don't think he is going to be what most people would have necessarily expecting. I think much like Rey discovering that Luke is not what she was expecting, I think we will find that out as well. The big question is how the fan base is going to respond.

 

The compass, backpack and walking stick coupled with Rian Johnson saying he has been really looking at Raiders of the Lost Ark. Might mean that Luke is still looking, or that he has been looking and has failed to find. Rey arrives to find him roaming the ruins in the location of his search but he is unable to find what he sought.

Rey shows up and finds Luke at the end of his faith. Then something changes. . . he was looking in the wrong place or only with another could he open the door.