1. Due to the increased amount of spam bots on the forum, we are strengthening our defenses. You may experience a CAPTCHA challenge from time to time.
    Dismiss Notice
  2. Notification emails are working properly again. Please check your email spam folder and if you see any emails from the Cantina there, make sure to mark them as "Not Spam". This will help a lot to whitelist the emails and to stop them going to spam.
    Dismiss Notice
  3. IMPORTANT! To be able to create new threads and rate posts, you need to have at least 30 posts in The Cantina.
    Dismiss Notice
  4. Before posting a new thread, check the list with similar threads that will appear when you start typing the thread's title.
    Dismiss Notice

SPOILER Official Obi-Wan Disney+ Series - Discussion

Discussion in 'Obi-Wan Kenobi' started by Kyle, Sep 7, 2014.

  1. Lord Phanatic

    Lord Phanatic Luminous Being
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2014
    Posts:
    4,444
    Likes Received:
    28,851
    Trophy Points:
    153,567
    Credits:
    14,185
    Ratings:
    +32,196 / 79 / -67
    Not sure where that other ship came from but I sure didn't see it and neither did Vader.

    Disney is making Vader a little TOO powerful with his telekinesis force abilities ( Damm near ripping the side of the whole ship off).

    Reva. Loving her back story and intentions, Vader really toyed with her. She could have just cut the darn door from the beginning.
     
    • Like Like x 3
  2. Meister Yoda

    Meister Yoda Your Little Green Friend
    1030th General **** (Mod)

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2015
    Posts:
    1,573
    Likes Received:
    34,798
    Trophy Points:
    157,752
    Credits:
    21,416
    Ratings:
    +37,503 / 5 / -4
    What if Reva dies...
    years later on Alderan, because at the end she takes the task of watching over Leia.
     
    • Original Original x 4
    • Cool Cool x 2
  3. Sheddai_Lightkeeper

    Credits:
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0
    The tomb in the mysteries. A tomb can be a place of first death and second birth. Initiates in ancient ritual entered the tomb, died and were reborn to a new consciousness, and new path. People wonder if Earth's pyramids are tombs or something else. They're both tombs and temples, in legend. The fortress inquisitorious looks similar to a pyramid above water in Obi-wan episode 4, doesn't it? Ben calls it a tomb. It could be symbolically a tomb for the Jedi consciousness. In mysteries, the tomb is the tomb of a god like Thoth, Hermes, Mercury, Nabu, which we celebrate unconsciously on Woden's Day- wednesday. People who have not initiated are sometimes called, "the dead." That's why I'm anxious to see if they're going to rebirth those Jedi from the tomb. And with all the baptism symbolism, who or what is that about?

    What is a fortress so deep you cannot tell how deep it is, and impenetrable without any shields or defenses, but you can walk straight into it just by claiming authority? Answer to yourself.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  4. Rogues1138

    Rogues1138 Jedi Sentinel - Army of Light
    1030th Captain ** (Mod)

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2015
    Posts:
    4,267
    Likes Received:
    40,954
    Trophy Points:
    161,967
    Credits:
    23,790
    Ratings:
    +43,649 / 82 / -39
    Zombie Inquisitors... :D
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  5. Martoto

    Martoto Force Sensitive

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2019
    Posts:
    1,815
    Likes Received:
    4,171
    Trophy Points:
    12,867
    Credits:
    4,251
    Ratings:
    +5,638 / 31 / -6
    You can see it. Plain as day.
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Funny Funny x 1
  6. Sheddai_Lightkeeper

    Credits:
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0
    Someone on YT made fun of the silliness of people not seeing or hearing what Tala was doing inside the fortress, except for certain people. It's the people that did not claim authority who did not notice or bother her, wasn't it?


    That would be great. They are like zombies. Stab them and they keep going.
     
    #566 Sheddai_Lightkeeper, Jun 17, 2022
    Last edited by a moderator: Jun 17, 2022
  7. Darth Derringer

    Darth Derringer Rebel Official

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2021
    Posts:
    1,283
    Likes Received:
    2,260
    Trophy Points:
    8,117
    Credits:
    2,756
    Ratings:
    +3,136 / 50 / -13
    I thought the display of Vader's power was one of The Most Impressive Displays of his force abilities fans have ever seen. What made it even more emotionally resonant is that, for all his might, he'd nevertheless had been played -- which leads to him 'remembering' Obi-wan's "you're still a padawan" (OUCH!) lecture after beating him in their duel.
     
    • Like Like x 4
  8. eeprom

    eeprom Prince of Bebers

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2016
    Posts:
    2,776
    Likes Received:
    7,006
    Trophy Points:
    87,467
    Credits:
    6,890
    Ratings:
    +10,375 / 40 / -11
    I agree. It was pretty visceral and impressive. Though I did immediately have a flash to the end of Rogue One where he just stands there and watches the Tantive fly away.

    But it had been a bit, so maybe he was out of shape and that hallway scene really winded him :D
     
    • Like Like x 4
  9. DarthSnow

    DarthSnow Sith in the North
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 2016
    Posts:
    3,365
    Likes Received:
    48,914
    Trophy Points:
    171,477
    Credits:
    16,181
    Ratings:
    +56,036 / 9 / -3
    I don't see this as a "Disney" problem. Is this not what fans have been clamoring for since... 1977??
     
    • Like Like x 6
    • Great Post Great Post x 1
  10. The dinh

    The dinh Rebel Official

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2019
    Posts:
    693
    Likes Received:
    1,531
    Trophy Points:
    6,292
    Credits:
    2,821
    Ratings:
    +2,261 / 2 / -0
    That's Ferus Olin's job ;)
     
  11. Lord Phanatic

    Lord Phanatic Luminous Being
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2014
    Posts:
    4,444
    Likes Received:
    28,851
    Trophy Points:
    153,567
    Credits:
    14,185
    Ratings:
    +32,196 / 79 / -67
    No not all fans, me being one of them. He could have just went to the base himself and force ripped the door off singlehandedly. It just doesn't add up. I mean you don't see that?
    Definitely a Disney video game Vader issue.
     
    #571 Lord Phanatic, Jun 17, 2022
    Last edited: Jun 17, 2022
    • Like Like x 1
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
  12. Darth Derringer

    Darth Derringer Rebel Official

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2021
    Posts:
    1,283
    Likes Received:
    2,260
    Trophy Points:
    8,117
    Credits:
    2,756
    Ratings:
    +3,136 / 50 / -13
    Anybody can play this kind of "it doesn't add up" game with Star Wars content if they're so inclined. But why do that? Obi-wan Kenobi is meant to be a fun, entertaining, action-adventure TV show, not Citizen Kane or The Godfather.

    Looking back, I suppose Vader COULD have stopped Luke Skywalker's X-wing dead in its tracks, thus preventing him from ever making his historic run down the chute in ANH to destroy the Deathstar Don't you see that one too?
     
    • Like Like x 1
  13. Lord Phanatic

    Lord Phanatic Luminous Being
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2014
    Posts:
    4,444
    Likes Received:
    28,851
    Trophy Points:
    153,567
    Credits:
    14,185
    Ratings:
    +32,196 / 79 / -67
    Ooooo. That stung lol.
    Just keeping it real, yes I see that one to.
    Point taken. I guess I'm in more of the mindset of RO realism. It's not like I'm not enjoying the show trust me I am but at the same time I'm definitely going to voice my complaints which is also...... keeping it real.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  14. Sheddai_Lightkeeper

    Credits:
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0
    In ep. 5, Leia gets a ladder, which they make a point to emphasize. She goes to work on wires, a symbol of working with energies in your consciousness. This will open the way out on the path, that has been sabotaged by the dark side. It's metaphor for kundalini yoga. Organa is Latin for instruments. She will become leader of the material forces, as Luke will become the spiritual/psychological leader, where we're going next episode. In Asia, they say energy work, qigong ( the source of Qui Gon's name)

    The episodes may be climbing the chakras in kundalini yoga, as they near Luke and Qui-Gon-- spirituality. In the 6th episode, we are at the third eye chakra, spiritual insight and intuition, able to see that which transcends our perceived reality. If they are following this, I expect to see Qui Gon at the end, because he will be the first evidence, in Star Wars, of transcendence as a force ghost. Kenobi is trying to yoke to that transcendent reality by communing with Qui Gon.

    I posted before about kundalini in Star Wars, as it relates to lightsaber colors in the Skywalker Saga. Mace Windu's violet lightsaber represents the crown chakra in the PT. In the timeline before Kenobi, what that means is that the connection to your divinity and the sacred has fallen-- the Jedi fell, the temple fell, Padme (meaning sacred lotus) died, and the young boy we knew as little Ani transformed in consciousness to a monster. It makes sense that they are doing this.

    Episode 3, Freck was literally an animal-- animal consciousness coming along to help you down the road before you get on the path of higher awareness. Tearing down the barrier in episode 3, instead of walking around it, was an important clue, because we overcame a barrier to move into the heart chakra, episode 4, where you see all the symbols of purification and rebirth to enter the temple.
     
    #574 Sheddai_Lightkeeper, Jun 17, 2022
    Last edited by a moderator: Jun 18, 2022
    • Like Like x 1
  15. Sheddai_Lightkeeper

    Credits:
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0
    So we saw in episode 3, Freck, animal consciousness, driving the vehicle of consciousness down the road, carrying dumb stormtroopers, and Kenobi in a state of fear that Anakin's coming for him, and frustration that no one came to help, making blunders, and Leia aching to know her birth parents....low conscious states.....until, he breaks through the barrier, and he rediscovers the path. Remember, this is a myth, or collective dream about you and your psychological path.

    Black, white, it doesn't matter, we are all slaves in consciousness. If your body is free, and your heart and mind still in chains that you cannot even see, you will never be free. Harriet Tubman and friends of the U.S. underground railroad sang songs with encoded messages telling slaves how to escape to freedom. Star Wars has a story with a hidden message that can free people in other ways.
     
    #575 Sheddai_Lightkeeper, Jun 18, 2022
    Last edited by a moderator: Jun 18, 2022
    • Like Like x 1
  16. Sheddai_Lightkeeper

    Credits:
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0
    You need a button that lets you add a note to a post. I forgot to mention about Freck as lower animal consciousness driving you, if you let yourself be driven only by this lower consciousness, it will betray you, just like our pal Freck.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  17. Sheddai_Lightkeeper

    Credits:
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0
    If that seems crazy to someone seeing it the first time, the animal consciousness, and kundalini ladder idea has a foundation. It comes from studying Joseph Campbell, George Lucas's mentor. In his description of kundalini yoga, he said the first three chakras are about your animal-like consciousness. At the fourth level, is the virgin birth where you die to your animal nature, and are reborn to your higher consciousness. Regeneration. That's the symbolism we see in the fourth episode.

    Does that make sense? Inside Freck's truck, is not just Kenobi, Leia, stormtroopers. There is also fear, confusion, ignorance, doubt, grief, and so on, that's riding down the path in a vehicle driven by animal consciousness, that betrays them.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  18. DeeRush

    DeeRush Rebelscum

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2022
    Posts:
    240
    Likes Received:
    209
    Trophy Points:
    642
    Credits:
    505
    Ratings:
    +284 / 13 / -6
    For me, "Obi-Wan Kenobi" is my favorite DisneyPlus Star Wars series so far. I think it's better written than either "The Mandalorian" and "The Book of Boba Fett". Sure, I believe it has a few flaws. Just about every Star Wars movie or series have them. Some of the editing in this series strikes me as a little clumsy. I thought Episode 3 (which is my favorite) ended on a weird note with Leia fleeing from Reva after discovering the dead pilot. It felt anti-climactic to me. And yes, I wasn't that impressed by the Alderaan woods chase scene. But I feel these flaws were minor and did not overwhelm the excellence of this series.

    I liked "The Book of Boba Fett", but I didn't love it. One, I thought the early episodes had too many flashbacks. And I was put off by the two Din Djarin episodes that I not only found boring, but also jarring. They belonged in "The Mandalorian" and not in a series about Boba Fett. Fortunately, I loved the "Boba Fett" finale episode. As for "The Mandalorian", I'll admit that I became an instant fan. But . . . I disliked how the first season narrative was interrupted with standalone episodes that introduced new characters for not only the Season 1 finale, but also for Season 2. And I'm not a fan of Season 1's second episode, "The Child". It didn't feel like a full episode to me. I think Season 1 was saved by its last two episodes. As for Season 2 of "The Mandalorian", the writing was tighter, but I disliked how the first five (out of eight) episodes were all about Mando doing someone a favor in order to find information on the whereabouts of other Mandalorians and the Jedi. Season 2 also catered to fan service a little too much for my taste. And unlike many others, I disliked Luke Skywalker's appearance in the Season 2 finale. It felt wrong to me, and I believed it should have been utilized in the series finale. The fact that Grogu didn't stay with Luke for very long only enforced my feelings.

    Like I had said, I believe "Obi-Wan Kenobi" has a few flaws, but I still managed to enjoy it more than the other two Star Wars series.
     
    • Like Like x 5
  19. eeprom

    eeprom Prince of Bebers

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2016
    Posts:
    2,776
    Likes Received:
    7,006
    Trophy Points:
    87,467
    Credits:
    6,890
    Ratings:
    +10,375 / 40 / -11
    Honestly, the flaws are weirdly some of my favorite parts. The execution issues in this show are so glaring that they actually become incredibly charming and endearing to me. They’re a plus rather than a minus and make watching a touch more fun than it maybe would have been otherwise.

    For me, the highs are so wonderfully high and the lows are so comically low that they just turn into more highs. Yeah, this probably is my favorite D+ Star Wars show so far :)
     
    • Like Like x 5
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
    • Cool Cool x 1
  20. Darth Derringer

    Darth Derringer Rebel Official

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2021
    Posts:
    1,283
    Likes Received:
    2,260
    Trophy Points:
    8,117
    Credits:
    2,756
    Ratings:
    +3,136 / 50 / -13
    Yikes! Sorry in advance for an OT comment, but I consider the first three episodes of Mando to be the finest mini-trilogy we’ve ever seen in the GFFA. Absolute Saturday-matinee popcorn perfection!
     
    • Like Like x 1
Loading...

Share This Page