SPOILER Official Obi-Wan Disney+ Series - Discussion

That’s a great point.

I like how this series is paying service to this broader idea, but making it relevant to the direct stakes of this narrative. Obi-Wan’s mission is to protect two Force sensitive children from the evil emperor. That concept was always relatively abstract as a threat. This story makes it immediate and specific. The Empire is actively searching for people like the twins. And they end up like the figures in that tomb in the fortress. THIS is what Obi-Wan is protecting them from. THIS is why he’s needed.

I’m a fan.

 

I forgot you said this and was thinking the same today - Kenobi's "We could end this, together" has symmetry with Vader encouraging Luke to join him and destroy the Emperor together.

Off of the back of this, I wonder if in Episode 6 of Obi-Wan we will see Reva die in an act of self-sacrifice following a return to the side of the good, in parallel with Vader's sacrifice and return to the light in ROTJ.

My only doubt? In the OT Obi-Wan doesn't seem to consider such a thing possible, thinking Luke should destroy Vader rather than trying to bring him back to the light, believing the 'dark side' is all consuming and from which there is no return. If he sees such a thing is possible with Reva, then that makes his attitude even more questionable in the OT!

SO.. perhaps the symmetry will be inverted, with Obi-Wan failing where Luke will succeed. Not with Vader, but with Reva. His own failure there could be what cements his view that Vader cannot be redeemed?

 

We've heard that the finale was changed a bit to accommodate a season 2. We've also heard Reva may be getting her own show. Maybe your idea was the original ending, but it's since been changed?

Perhaps. Makes me wonder what role Vader may play, too. If Kenobi is a Luke proxy, and Reva Vader, then Vader takes on a more Emperor-like role. Perhaps Kenobi's fight with Reva will be over revealing Luke's location to Vader- he'll stop her in the end (and she'll leave the Inquisitors, if she technically hasn't already), but fail to fully bring her to the light?

 

Makes me wonder what ROTJ nods Part VI might have. Speeder bike chase? Big tree houses? Jabba cameo? Some sarlacc shenanigans? The return of Yub Nub?

 

Is it weird that I can heard that gif?

 

I think you nailed it!

The series closes with Obi-Wan celebrating a successful mission singing campfire songs with a bunch Jawas as the ghost of Qui-Gon look on, and the Yub Nub song is made canon again.

 

It's interesting . . . a lot of people either see either Reva getting killed in this series, moving to Alderaan to look over Leia before getting killed nine years later or not being redeemed. They cannot think of anything more positive for her. Now, some might say that she is very hated. And my question would be . . . why? Why her, specifically?

 

I think the proxy thing is fluid and always in motion, and doesn't always remain so literal. Reva may be a Vader proxy at times, but at others she may even be a Luke proxy, with her 'left dead for dead' status after a confrontation with Vader akin to Luke being left hanging from the bottom of Cloud City (and as I'm writing this I'm realising she's still simultaneously a Vader proxy if compare her to how Anakin was left for dead by Obi-Wan at the end of ROTS)

Yes I'd vaguely heard that too but I don't know how much of it is confirmed or just rumour. Might all just be red herrings to throw us off the scent of the conclusion!

BUT if she is getting her own show, then I think that would mean some sort of redemption is necessary. As they did with Boba Fett, they would need to move her away from being 'the bad guy' if she's going to be the lead in a show I would think.

 

That premise on the first post is a lot better than what happened in the show

 

I imagine most of us are viewing this limited series as a closed narrative where the finale would be conclusive and Reva’s story would be completed without loose ends. For a character who, so far, has been presented as an unrepentant villain, death makes the most logical sense as that conclusion.

But just because it’s the most logical conclusion doesn’t mean that’s what would be the most meaningful for the story.

 

Reva is not around by the time of the OT, so it's not unreasonable to think she's not going to make it beyond the series. I think the idea of keeping characters around permanently just because we like them has to stop!

My expectation with ALL Star Wars prequels is that prominent new characters, especially those with powers of the Force, will one way or another be gone by the time of the OT, because that's already canon.

EDIT: It's as @eeprom says - there's an expectation that it's a closed narrative.

 

I suppose it's very much possible Reva's show could take place in the timeline before Kenobi, of course.

Star Wars has dabbled around with jumping around the timeline every now and then, don'tcha know?

I also kinda hope that the season stands alone as its own thing. In fact, I've mentioned before that even now I'm not particularly excited for a season 2.

But then again, I didn't originally even want a Kenobi show at all, yet I think they've done some great stuff with this season.

I just hope that whatever changes were made to the end of this season aren't too cliffhangery.

 

For some reason I'm reminded of Deadpool when he says "A 4th wall break inside a 4th wall break. That's like... 16 walls".

Star Wars creates a prequel to fill a gap between a prequel and the original story and then creates another prequel to fill a gap between the two existing prequels. The layers just keep piling on!

 

And since this all takes place "a long time ago", they're all technically prequels

 

I'd put credits on this happening! In fact I have. I am really confident:

https://thecantina.starwarsnewsnet....b-nub-at-the-end-of-the-obi-wan-series.63430/

 

I don't see why Reva has to die at the end of this series, because she is not in the OT films. There are a lot of characters who are not in the OT films - like Ahsoka Tano. Yet, she had survived the Rebellion. We don't know what happened to Ezra Bridger and Admiral Thrawn. So, why do so many want Reva dead at the end of this series?

It can also take place after this series. Why do you want her dead so badly?

 

The show is finished, and my verdict is that basically everyone in it acts like complete morons except for Reva who knows everything for some reason. Or perhaps everyone was turned into complete morons in order to make Reva look smart. All in all, there are some minor good parts about the show but they are sadly easily overlooked by the most of the characters' poor decisions.

Bail is probably the biggest moron in the entire show. Again and again he sends out secret information about Luke and Leia via the Holonet, jeopardizing their safety and even being so stupid as to mention the actual location of Tatooine. Yet he refuses to send out his own soldiers to look for Leia because it would draw too much attention? Why? She is a princess of Alderaan, regardless of who that would be it would not be seen as strange to send out private soldiers to look for a kidnapped princess. Additionally, Bail himself travels to Tatooine IN PERSON to ask Obi-Wan for help, jeopardizing the situation even further and possibly drawing unwanted attention. Gone are the golden days of Bail being a strategic genius.

Vader is also turned into a complete moron. Are you telling me that he knew that Reva was planning to betray him for over 10 years? Yet he kept her as an Inquisitor? Not only that, but he kept an Inquisitor who knew his secret identity as Anakin Skywalker? And he falls for her excuses over and over again throughout the series, sparing her life again and gain? Why? He is turned into a moron for plot conveniences and it's just sad to see it happen. And I haven't even mentioned how embarrassing the fire scene is when he allows Obi-Wan to escape.

The list goes on for other characters, but I'll admit that Obi-Wan for the most part isn't a complete moron (thankfully). However, you might think he'd be wiser than what is shown to risk being caught and killed.

 

Now after the season has wrapped I can say I liked the show for the most parts. It was a fun experience.

I liked the depictions of most characters.
- Obi-Wan felt like Obi-Wan
- Vader was a force to be reckoned with
- Reva was something new and added some interesting ideas
- the inquisitors were over the top evil and I'm loving it
- Leia and her droid were cute

I just wish they would have used more music from the OT and PT. The last episode felt much more like SW with the older tracks.

If they make a second season, then I hope they are rethinking the cinematography. This show is way too dark and the shaky cam is overused.


I wouldn't mind having a second season. There are still alot of stories to tell and it's always nice to see Ewan and Co.

I would rate this show 7/10, thus the best live action SW show so far- at least IMO.