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SPECULATION OFFICIAL Rey Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Legend Knight, Sep 6, 2014.

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Who is Rey?

  1. Daughter of Han and Leia, sister of Kylo Ren

    151 vote(s)
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  2. Daughter of Han and Leia

    42 vote(s)
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  3. Daughter of Han

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  4. A character with no ties

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  5. Daughter of Luke

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  6. Daughter of Leia

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  7. Gasp...A Kenobi

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  1. duch_wpicuje

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    Actually, it is!
     
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    Either Maz Kanata was just sitting Rey down so she could eventually accept her true destiny or she was just trying to be all "motherly" and the like .
     
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    No. Most instances actors/actresses will play characters that are a few years younger than their actual ages.
     
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    Young plays old and old plays young .
     
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    I really don't believe the abandonment of Rey and the destruction of Luke's Jedi are related events. It feels like we keep trying to make the timeline work and it never does.
     
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    I think that that is because it's partially that we don't have enough information and The Story a group is still figuring out the characters themselves which is why we are typically getting "non-answers" as of now .
     
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    Text from the novelization depicting Rey being left on Jakku:

    Then behind her, another voice.
    That voice.
    “Stay here. I’ll come back for you.”
    She whirled, glazed eyes desperately scanning the dark gaps between the slender trees, trying to penetrate the darkness.
    “Where are you?” She started running toward the voice.
    “I’ll come back, sweetheart. I promise.”
    “I’m here! Right here! Where are you?”

    Now I've also heard the audio book has a female voice say the above lines to Rey. This would mean her mother or another female guardian was the one to leave Rey. Notice that Unkar Plutt is not mentioned in the novel.

    My speculation based on the above: Rey's mother left her with every intention of coming back.
    Why did she leave?
    Why didn't she come back?
    Why doesn't Rey know her name?
    Why didn't anyone else come for her?

    Those are the big questions here.
     
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    I just saw the movie for the fourth time and my views have not changed much on Rey and who's she is/isn't related to. Here they are

    1. I still think there is a chance she is not related to the Skywalker line
    2. I still think she could be Luke's daughter but if that is the case I definitely don't think she knows it (It is obvious in the movie she only knows Luke as a legend and not as an actual person) and I think it is very possible he is unaware he has a daughter. I think it would be more compelling if they discovered it together.
    3. I think Han does not know who Rey is. While I know there are many who disagree but I also don't think there is any evidence that he does know who she is.
    I think this topic will continued to be debated for awhile. I hope we get an answer in VIII
     
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    The narrator of the audiobook confirmed to me on twitter that the voice he used was gender neutral - they weren't told if it was male or female.
     
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    Is he talking about HIS voice OR the narrator that he hired ?
     
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    That's Marc Thompson, the narrator himself. He's referring to the voice he used when he read this mystery character's lines.
     
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    He must be a great go actor to be able to do that .
     
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    People point to how the scene switches just as Maz Kanata asks him "who's the girl?"

    I personally didn't get the impression that he knew for sure. Maybe a suspicion, but no more - not at least until the lightsaber scene, if at all.

    The thing is, even if their conversation about Rey was really mundane ( like "Well, she was piloting the Falcon on Jakku and she's really good at fixing stuff. Did I mention she got the Kessel Run time/distance wrong? And that she knew me as a smuggler rather than a general?" ), you would expect them to cut away at that moment anyway, because Han would just be repeating information the audience already knows.

    So not showing us their conversation is good filmmaking, regardless of what they actually talked about.
     
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    You know, some of the reaction shots I thought weren't that well done .
     
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    I have something to get off my chest. It is something that bothered me from the moment the film was released. I've seen it here on the boards and I have heard it on various SW podcasts (trust me, I listen to a lot of them).

    I see people trying to 'explain' Rey's Jedi mind trick. The two most popular theories is that she was already trained by someone (Luke) and her mind was wiped or that she extracted the knowledge from Kylo's mind. What I want to say is that this is completely unnecessary.

    Let me put it this way.

    We all know the password to Ali Baba's cave, how to wake up Sleeping Beauty or call Genie from the lamp, not because we have met them, but because we have heard the stories. They are fascinating, that is why we know all the details. If you drop us tomorrow in Fairy Tale Land, we would all know what to do, because we have heard the stories.

    For Rey, stories about the Jedi are fairy tales. "Luke Skywalker? I thought he was a myth.", "Jedi were real?", she says. There is no Empire to suppress the stories any longer, but there are no Jedi either. Hence, the fairy tales.

    What Kylo Ren does for Rey when he prods her mind is not give her a speed course in Jedi Mind Tricking - he gives her a tangible proof of what old smuggler Han Solo was talking about before, that the stories are real. And, once she finds herself in his mind, that she can do these things too. Basically, Kylo Ren drops her in Fairy Tale Land.

    So, when she finds herself alone with storm trooper JB-007 (shaken, not stirred), she is basically saying "Open, Sesame!" or "Expelliarmus!" in GFFA terms. And she repeats it, until it works. No backstory needed. Everything is in the movie.

    Whew, now I feel better. :)
     
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    While I'm not sure If I believe this I just find it more interesting than another Skywalker kid. (Or Solo same thing).

    It is possible this is a clone of Anakin created by The Emperor. The gender swap could have been to help hide her, or it could have been an accident. Maz had seen her eyes before. In Anakin.

    I just think that JJ would never make something as obvious as Rey being Luke or Leia's daughter. This dude likes to make things overly complicated. Those options are way too obvious for him.
     
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    1. JJ is respecting the source material. He's not being JJ. And he's not going to disrespect the audience with tons of misdirection. Fans were claiming JJ was releasing misinformation prior to release just to mess with fans. He wasn't. He has too much respect for the fans.
    2. Star Wars has always rhymed. Anakin = desert slave, Luke = desert farmer, Rey = desert scavenger. They all start their journey pretty much the same way.
    3. Rey being a clone is a cheap plot device and would take away from her story. No, she's going to get a brilliant and probably heart breaking back story. Just look at what they did with Kylo and Han. They will do something similar with Luke and Rey.
    4. JJ isn't making Episode 8. Rian Johnson is writing and directing with consulting by Abrams.
     
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    One thing important is that in her vision, when the ship leaves her on Jakku it goes straight in the darkness.
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    The desert thing could be a symbol for the light. There's no place with more light than a desert.
     
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    Abrams is all about concealing the obvious. Like Kylo Ren's true identity. Did they tell you exactly who he was before the movie opened? Nope. Did people start guessing at that when Adam Driver was cast in February 2014. Yep. Were people expecting something like the Star Wars expanded univere's Jacen Solo even before that? Yep.

    But Kylo Ren is a next-generation Skywalker descendant, obsessed with following in Vader's footsteps.

    And Abrams isn't ultimately in charge at Lucasfilm, it's Kathleen Kennedy.
     
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    1.Respecting source material does not mean JJ is not being JJ. Honestly, I think Star Wars could use a little of his style. Not too much. Just a little.

    2. The story starts in the same place, but the individual chooses how they proceed. This is the same reason Luke did not turn evil like Anakin. They start the same, but they end differently. It isn't so much as a rhyme as a parody. Following the same obvious story in my opinion would be the cheap plot device.

    3.How is this a cheap plot device? It could easily and obviously been Luke's child. If anything that is the cheap and obvious cop out. No reason a clone can't have a brilliant and heartbreaking story. I don't want something similar to Han and Kylo. We did that already. Rey deserves her own story.

    4.I'm aware JJ isn't writing episode 8. But the basis of the story is almost certainly already written.
     
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