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SPECULATION OFFICIAL: THE FIRST ORDER DISCUSSION THREAD

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Darth Zloi, Feb 11, 2015.

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  1. Disneylandfan4life

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    Why is the internet always go crazy on Sunday Nights/Monday Mornings? Is it because they have to go to work the next day/that morning after a weekend?
    Like the video says, there is nothing to be offended about with the salute, however the internet is raging about it none the less. Nice to see that people on this forum are relaxed about it!
    But what do you think? Let us hear your voice in the poll!
     
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    I don't now,maybe the new regime after the negative reputation and the so on hateful feelings of anger and pain created upon the citizens of the galaxy by the empire has decide to make an overall {policy} botox and show them the ''people loving nature'' of the state....;)
     

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    is the proletariate salute....is communists!
     
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    Hahaha is it really?! Oh wow. Too funny!
     
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    yep!!!!! star wars enter to a new path of political statement!
     
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    Stormtroopers unite...Never be slain by Jedi anymore...White armor power?!

    Its just too funny see some people lose their heads...
     
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    Gawd. Yes I know the history behind that fist in the air salute. I was trying to make the connection to the GFFA...poor Stormtrooper getting blasted like no one else...
     
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    i think is a political statement nothing more
     
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    And they go all out with Leni Riefenstahl´s Triumph of the Will with that whole scene.. The picture is strong. It works.
     
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    or with stalin's red square october parades
     
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    @Star Dude: Maybe there are the troopers you are looking for (First Order biker scouts) in the center of the image?

    First order stormtroopers with segmented chest plate.png
     
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    First order stormtroopers with segmented chest plate.png

    Why should the salute be controversial?

    Goodness...if people only scored an "F" in history they should just shut up and read it up first. Roman and German soldiers used their right arm.

    All I can see in the gesture is an angled left arm. So what? One of the Imperial security controllers in the Endor deflector shield generator bunker made the same gesture to his buddy when they learned that the Rebels had supposedly been scattered.

    I do not recall that his gesture became a big controversial issue in 1983.
     
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    my score was an A....
     
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    Sorry but like I just posted elsewhere I do not see any kind of political statement in the stormtroopers' raised left and angled arms. It rather looks like a "hurray" gesture to me.

    To be political or a salute the arm needs to be straight as in the Romans' or Third Reich's German salute (right arm only!).

    The Black Power salute stands quite in contrast to the aforementioned two (lowered head, fist instead of a straight hand), especially since it symbolizes a different message.
     
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    We have said, and nearly everyone knows, that the First Order/Empire were modeled after Nazis. The Nazis saluted by lifting their arm in the air. It turns out that other groups have used something similar (including the United States at one time), but this is clearly a nod to the Nazis.

    Is J.J. making a political statement? Of course not. He is visually depicting the Nazis of the GFFA.
     
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    People have developed a never make WW2 comparisons culture. Whenever such a comparison is made it creates a contrersy. I don't like the salute because the were already plenty of other things that invoked facisim but it is not offensive.
     
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    Is he really or is that wishful thinking?

    Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-B06275,_Berlin,_Reichstagssitzung,_Rede_Adolf_Hitler.jpg

    Frankly, it rather looks like a timid allusion to me. Or does anybody seriously believe we get stronger allusions that could jeopardize all the fun the guys from the 501st Legion might have dressing up as ... stormtroopers? ;-)
     
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    i think the overall ''space nazis-soviet'' project is really nice and funny
     
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