SPECULATION Poe Dameron's Role (Oscar Isaac)

I think he's in a young Obi-Wan role ala TPM.

Plays his part in the story, does good support and gets big moment in the final battle but doesn't really emerge until VIII.

 

I'm not sure how old Poe will be in TFA, but if he's around 35, that would mean he would've been born around the time of the Battle of Yavin. What if Poe's parents were part of the Rebel Alliance during that era? Is it possible that we'll see a Dameron in Rogue One? Perhaps his parents are the characters played by Felicity Jones and Diego Luna. I think that would be a cool tie-in. That would also fit with the rumors that Poe is from Yavin 4.

 

We know that now that he isn't.

 

"Dashing Resistance pilot Poe Dameron (Oscar Isaac) stands alongside his trusty X-wing fighter."
Vanity Fair June 2015 issue

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Wow these are great.

 

Seems to me Poe is Leia's number one "errand boy", a "grocery clerk, come to collect a bill" as Colonel Kurtz once observed. That appears to be his role.

I think he might have diplomatic skills too and certainly leadership skills. He sounds like a template not too dissimilar than Leia's. I swear I read somewhere, before we even knew the title of the film that Poe and Rey's genders were swapped once JJ and Kathleen got hold of the script. Does anyone remember reading something similar?

My understanding was Poe was more of a Leia protege, possibly a daughter, acting as the right hand of Leia, but when they wanted a female Jedi, swapped Rey and Poe's genders and turned Poe into a resistance pilot and gave him more action. That was one of the core divergent paths JJ took when he himself revised the script. This was a while back before even the first trailer and before we even knew the names of the characters, so I could be way off.

Anyway, my guess is he'll eventually become the overall military commander for the resistance, a leadership character, rather than a rogue hero.

I also think there's just a small chance that's he's just a little henpecked by Leia, who probably expects too much of him and probably isn't too open to his feedback when he criticizes the use of the Sledgehammer. A total guess there. But at one point I thought the MSW treatment made it clear that there is some friction between Poe and the Resistance and he does not see entirely eye-to-eye with Leia's tactics.

The one remaining squadron that survives the array will most certainly be his to command and I wager he's a core reason there's a sense of victory at the end of the film.

 

While we are all waiting for news from SDCC, there is something I have noticed, which I bothering me. There seems to be a lack of (leaked) footage and rumors regarding Poe Dameron (Oscar Isaac), especially about him interacting with other characters (Rey, Finn, Han, Luke, etc.).

Besides Poe being an X-wing pilot, there is not much that we know for sure. I believe that he has reported that he will be sent on a message by a queen (presumably Leia).

There are rumors (from MSW, I believe) that he will appear in the beginning of the movie as some sort of representative of the Republic delivering a message to the First Order during which he will try to steal information and be arrested. Whilst being in the brink, he will meet Finn and together they will escape.

We have seen others interact in the two trailers (e.g., Rey and Finn) or in leaked concept art which may have been fake (e.g., Rey and Kylo Ren). However, we have seen him only fly his X-wing. There seems little that we know about him, but he is supposed to be one of the "new big three".

Do you think that he will he appear only in the beginning of the movie? I find it odd that, although he will supposedly escape with Finn, only Finn appears to team up with Rey. Have I missed some rumors about Poe's role in the story? What do you think Poe's role in the story is?

 

I feel like the reason they gave us Poe's full name is to throw us off. What is Rey turns out to be Luke's daughter and Poe is Leia's son from another relationship?

 

Not everyone is going to be everyone's kids, Star Wars is a big galaxy

 

its funny that during the sdcc oscar said at the interview that poe could be a guy that was at the medal ceremony of ep4. meaning poe is a character before TFA ? !

 

I don't think ANYONE is going to be Anybody's kids.

 

He'd implied before that Poe may have been born on Yavin IV, or at least was a child there during the events of ANH. Considering Isaac's age (36), I don't think it's too much of a stretch that Poe is old enough to have witnessed that. However, I don't think it'll play into the plot at all, more likely it's the backstory he and JJ created for his character and his motivations.

 

EW speculates that Poe doesn't survive the TIE crash landing on Jakku, i.e. Finn takes Poe's jacket off his dead body. This would perhaps explain why Poe is mostly absent in rumors about the 2nd and 3rd acts.

I suppose this is possible, and there's precedent in other IP's like Scream (Drew Barrymore) and Game of Thrones (Sean Bean) to establish a main character and then kill them off unexpectedly soon, in order to raise the stakes and make us feel that no one is safe. Though it would mean Disney and Lucasfilm are being deceptive in their marketing, and the shots of Poe in his cockpit are from the first act and merely cut to look like he's part of the presumably third act X-Wing attack.

Article posted earlier today:
http://www.ew.com/article/2015/07/12/star-wars-force-awakens-theories-about-new-footage/4

 

But we have Poe flying with his X-Wing over an ocean, so if he died on the desert planet early in the movie, how could this shot happen?

 

Right, my point was they could be cutting that shot to make it look like Poe was flying that X-Wing over the water, when in fact the shot of Poe in his cockpit is from the first Act over Jakku, in a different X-Wing.

I'm not saying this is likely, just that this would be the explanation for what we've seen so far in the trailers, if EW's speculation that he buys the farm in the first act is correct.

 

They are clearly marketing Daisy, John and Oscar as the new 3 lead characters and while I see his reasoning to come up with his theory there is no way they market Isaac as one of the big 3 and kill him off 15 minutes into the movie. Also at celebration where this guy hosted the panel, Isaac said he was the best star fighter pilot in the galaxy and now he is speculating they kill him off at the beginning of the film. He is taking a wild shot in the dark just to fuel speculation. I think he is completely off base with this speculation as far as Poe dying

 

Also didn't Oscar Isaac say he was returning for Episode VIII?

 

I agree with you, and I think it would be foolish and pointless to market them as the new Big 3 only to kill one of them off 20 mins into the movie for shock effect -- but I think it is fair speculation at this point, based on the rumors we've heard, which talk about Poe in the first Act and then never again. We do see him in a cockpit in the trailers, and everyone assumes these shots are from some kind of battle in the third act, but this could be explained as deceptive editing.

Unless we can see water outside the cockpit? That would probably gut this speculation dead.

EDIT: Just re watched the second trailer. You can clearly see water through the cockpit window. I'll drop this EW speculation here as probably total nonsense.

 

I think this is just soft speculation on EW's part. Essentially, they're doing their part to protect the mystery of the film by saying something we know "Poe and Finn are in a TIE crash" and following it with "Does Poe die?" I assume we'll see a shot where it looks like Poe may have died (because Finn thinks he did), but then we'll be "surprised" when he wakes up a little later.

 

You are most likely correct, especially since EW seems to be their mainstream media mouthpiece of choice.