Rian Johnson has a big hole to dig Luke Skywalker out of.....

Help us Rian Johnson you're our only hope.
This guy better come up with a very good explanation for Luke's character break/change.
By the way I'am hoping for a force vision or flashback, that shows how Luke avanged the death of his pupils and eliminated the Knights of Ren one by one and let his nephew alive for whatever reasons.

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why?

 

I thought that the main lesson that Luke learned in TESB and RoTJ was not to rush off to help impulsively. Perhaps he meditated on the situation and decided that the mission that he is now on is for the greater good, despite the great losses.

 

He looked kinda disturbed in the last scene. (like he never wanted coming back) (retired)

 

Exactly, and even Yoda let his emotions get the better of him.. Luke has to be a shining example of the jedi. Also I can garauntee Snoke will take him out in episode 9, two major deaths in this many films would be cold.

 

Would suck, Han is already gone. (it felt like a kick in the soft parts area watching his death scene)

Disney: "Let's lure the OT fans into the cinema with the OT cast (as cameos)
"We bring them back to kill them off one by one (one each episode or more if needed)
Simultaneously it will boost the merchandise and toy sale
This time we will even be able to get the money from the older folks who fall for nostalgia"

In my opinion "It's a great idea to annoy OT fans and I guess we got cheated if it plays out this way"

 

Since the announcement of every director and screenwriter thus far, Rian Johnson has been the least controversial. He has seen the most approval by fans of the series and I expect this to be the biggest indicator of what he can and will do.

 

I have high hopes too.
TFA was slightly above average for me, not great, but maybe in the right direction that it could be good someday with better follow up's.
It was like a foreplay, to introduce Star Wars again, I guess Rian Johnson has the hard task to make the ST work.
VIII could be the game changer to make the ST great or fall apart.
It's like a match ball for the whole ST. (hit or miss)
This is my honest opinion about this topic.

 

I agree in that we need a better justification for Luke's absence besides the issue with Ben and the academy. However, I think one of the main things we need to consider is that perhaps when Luke left the First Order wasn't known yet and Snoke being strong with the dark side was unknown to Luke as well. So perhaps his decision to leave was not so out of character at that moment since Ben alone would not be much of a threat to the republic.

 

I suspect Luke has been doing more in seclusion than just holding a pity party with the Force ghosts. I gather he did what his mentors Yoda and Obi-Wan did. He went into seclusion and remained patient until it was time to act again. I would think leaving would also allow him to meditate in the Force, watch Rey from afar (Remember Yoda watched Luke from afar) and learn more about the enemy. When Rey finds him, I don't suspect he's surprised to see she is there. I think he foresaw her arrival.

 

What is nice about Rian is he has had plenty more time to work on his movie. He wrote and directed. So it is his vision and his vision alone.

 

I wish him luck, that he is able to craft a very good Star Wars movie that everyone can enjoy.
Hopefully he has a good explanation about Lukes actions and that he uses the character and do him justice.

 

I like that Kylo faces a similar confrontation, but in reverse. Luke couldn't kill his father. Kylo could. Instead of throwing the saber away, he uses it.

 

It could be possible that Luke is hiding himself for a multitude of reasons, not just his shame. Suppose Rey is his daughter, Kylo may have murdered her mother. It is also possible that the First Order's propaganda against him along with some potentially angry parents (his padawans parents) forced him in to hiding for his own safety. I would assume also that his "hiding" is not just an exile. He must be searching for something as well, he would have to be. Han says the first Jedi temple, but he certainly also be looking for the origins of Snoke or something along those lines. Perhaps Luke immediately after the Jedi massacre Luke channeled the dark side too hard and is also trying to cleanse himself from that temptation.

 

I rated this as an original idea, but to be honest I don't see it happen.
Sounds to earth bound, Luke as a bad kindergarten supervisor, who escapes from angry parents, because he violated his duty of supervision.

 

...yeah, the literal hole in the ground like in the concept art loljk...but seriously, did you ever see that picture ?

 

I was thinking along the same lines save for the first part of your post. Perhaps Luke went to find the First Jedi Temple much in the same way the Empire went to find the source of the dark side of the force. In both cases you could argue that both were searching for answers due to the blows that each side had been dealt. They are searching for some way to gain and advantage over the other side as well as returning to their roots and reminding themselves of what they are trying to accomplish.

 

Why do people keep assuming Luke hide because of all these negative reasons, fear for himself, shame, doesn't give a sh!t anymore. I think this keeps getting said because some people didn't get what they wanted. Which is a Luke centered movie where he force chokes everybody and cuts a bunch of peoples heads off with his green light saber. All the information that the movie put out was; Luke was training a new generation of Jedi. A pupil of his turned bad and destroyed everything. They never even said if it was Ben that killed all Luke's pupil. Ben was only 10 at the time after all. That Luke went away and people were looking for him ever since. Period...end of information...yes it's a mystery. If you don't like it to bad, that's the direction SW has gone.

I'll bet real money with anyone that Luke vanished for a good, self sacrificing reason. Johnson was tossed an awesome set up for the next movie. I just hope he can capture the magic of great dialog that Kasdan made with TFA.