Rian Johnson has a big hole to dig Luke Skywalker out of.....

I have a feeling Luke has gone 'back to the source' where the 1st temple and birth of the jedi way is to ponder and reflect and try and figure out what he did wrong so he can prevent this from ever happening again. He seems to be akin to the tormented soul Paul Atreides became in "Children of Dune"


Seems like the flip side of Palps seeing out the 'Source of the Dark Side' beyond the Rim

For all we know Luke may be able to commune with the greatest Jedi of all time in this place
perhaps he's letting billions die because he's working on trying to avert a disaster that will eventually consume the entire Galaxy?

 

Sounds like Death Wish 3, it was not a good movie, but very entertaining. (I like it)

 

Johnson has a giant hole to dig out of, period.

The hole will only get bigger to as the sugar high wears off and fans sober up and realize the TFA was a very poor Star Wars film.

It's The Phantom Menace all over again.

 

I see it the same way, TFA was the set up, Rian Johnson must deliver, he has to.
Let's cross fingers that he is able to stem this task. (I wish that they let him play with the toy box)

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I liked the pod race.

Do you think he is able to craft a good Star Wars movie?

 

Too late IMO....JJ had to deliver with TFA, and he failed spectacularly.

I hope Johnson can turn the ship around but I'm not holding my breath.

 

HaHaHa DW3 was one of my favorite childhood movies.

 

Thanks for your honesty, I guess your opinion is not very popular in this board.
To be honest, I'am undecided yet, I guess TFA is a bit above average, a set up to reintroduce Star Wars.
VIII will be the game changer in my opinion if the ST will be considered good or a failure.
Nonetheless they are making a ton of money and this is pivital to them.

If he has the full control, he could craft something great, I would not be surprised if it could top ESB.
I suppose it will be a very hard task for him to do it.

 

The reason Luke has been gone I'm sure will be a complicated one, and much more than the tidbits we've been given so far.

 

Of greater importance is Disney activating George Lucas' creative consultant role.

Because after seeing TFA, it was obvious just how vital he is to Star Wars.

And a competent director like Johnson could filter out all Lucas' blast ideas, then keep the good ones.

Then we get a real Star Wars film and not this counterfeit bantha poodoo JJ did.

So if they bring George's input into things, then I'm much more optimistic about episode 8.

 

Don't forget that JJ is Exec. Producing AT LEAST VIII .

 

They will never let George near SW ever ever again. They tried to let George help out with TFA and that didn't work out. They trashed his ideas because they were just as bad if not worse than the PT (not my words but words from a source). Then George pouted in public which hurt Disney's marketing a little for TFA. All that talk about divorce, There's no coming back from that.

 

I like the idea.

I guess it will not happen, they will not bring him back and I guess he does not want it either.
@dax post summed it up very well. George Lucas/Disney = Divorce (there was some kind of a backstage trouble behind not so closed doors)

 

Rian has proven to be a great movie story teller. I just wish Kasdan was on board to add his magic of great dialog and great personal interactions. I fear 8 might excel where TFA was weak but be weak (dialog) where TFA was great.

 

The key is the fact that in Rey's flashback/forward that Luke wasn't even around until it was too late. Maybe he entrusted someone while he was gone for whatever reason and when he came back there was destruction and was betrayed not just by Kylo but friends.

I don't know but it is not being out of character. He is a human being with emotions, not Superman. It also doesn't mean he went off being depressed and all that, but to seek the force on the issue and maybe Yoda, Obi Wan or Anakin told him to wait.

 

JJ said before the movie was released that there was a good reason why he wasn't in the poster, etc. I don't think it's because of the reasoning in the movie of his feeling of ashamed. I have a feeling we'll get more backstory and his REAL reasons for not showing up in episode 8.

 

Yoda and Ben basically did the same thing with Vader, but I don't see you laying all this stuff on their backs.

Be careful about how hard you are throwing those stones, especially when you don't know what happened or why yet.