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Should Lightsabers Be "Special"?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Oola, Oct 1, 2015.

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Should lightsabers be exlusive to Force users?

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  2. No

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  1. Rieekan

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    Not to hard in Clone wars some kids build them under the guidance of a droid but the force was used in that process.


    So how did this droid build his lighsabers, is the force not obligate?
    Edit: ok in that episode he just builds a lighsaber in not time.
    http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Huyang
     
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  2. Lord Phanatic

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    Trolling? Now THAT is funny!:p
     
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    I think whatt his really boils down to is the construction of the lightsaber. According to both Canon and EU sources the internal components are so delicate and precise and impossible for mechanical engineering that they cannot be created without the use of the force.

    I think that this should be preserved... sure maybe anyone could use them, maybe they even have a lightsaber assembly line populated by little old knights of ren, maybe stormtroopers use them.

    But if they are being created casually.... by the hands of anyone but a force user, then I am going to have serious problems.

    How would you feel if in a fullmetal alchemist sequel they were just like "oh human transmutation? we do that shizzle all the time now, creating souls is easy."
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    I have my suspicions about master Huyang...

    http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Iron_Knight

    But probably not, i suspect that he just aids in the technical aspect and has the knowledge... having the knowledge and the ability are very different things. You know what they say, those that cant do... teach...
     
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    Of Course if Han can open up the Tauntaun with it anyone can pick one up turn it on and wave it around like a very nasty sword. BUT as I said above, deflecting blaster bolts needs training like Luke with the remote in ANH and Force sensitivity to be aware of where the bolt would go before it's actually fired.
    I always thought it would be fun to have a lightsaber switch on the inside so you had to use the Force to switch it on ;-)
     
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    That propped up dozens of times in the EU... most notable example that springs to mind is the main bad guy from The Crystal stars lightsaber....
     
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    This fact may have been shunted off to the Legends canon (or at least half of it)- it used to be that the lightsaber of a Jedi was a special thing. They had to go to Ilum and have a connection with the Force by which they found their unique crystal and then would begin the process of carefully constructing a personal lightsaber. This part is still canon via TCW. Its also been mentioned (probably now in Legends) that there was a ritual in which two Jedi who were very close would swap lightsabers for a time in order to strengthen their bond, more intimately share their personal experience with the Force, and learn from each other.

    On the other hand, its been stated (possibly in old canon), that red crystals are synthetic and possibly even mass produced. There are a few exceptions, like Dooku having the crystal of Darth Andeddu, but the red ones come from a factory otherwise. Palpatine makes a comment to Vader somewhere that the Sith have grown beyond the use of lightsabers, but still use them as sort of a taunt to the Jedi, who they consider less powerful. I'm normally great about siting sources, but I've had some health problems lately, which make recalling exactly where I heard or read something more difficult, so please bear with me.

    For TFA, I would totally accept the fact that non-Force wielding FO troops can swing a red lightsaber, while Luke and whatever is left of a Jedi order- old or new- still follow the old path of painstakingly constructing a lightsaber that's unique and deeply personal. Also, in this rumor of common lightsabers, shields are also mentioned. I know it's not canon now, but in the Plagueis novel, he finds a cortosis mine (material strong enough to stop a lightsaber) and has at least one shield produced which he sends to the Yinchorri, resulting in the death of several Jedi. The idea of the Jedi remnant vs. the FO assigning different values to a lightsaber makes total sense, and I think it'd make the movie plot stronger.
     
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    TCW is canon, and they had a huge story-arch explaining how special and difficult it was to make a lightsaber.

    But I think you misunderstand what a synthetic crystal is, Sith synthetic crystals are as personal in their creation as a lightsaber is. they pour all of their hate, anger, and fear into it through the force.

    From my understanding any crystal can become "Kyber" through meditation, but naturally occurnig ones work the best. Sith have to forge create their crystals connection to the dark side and the force.

    Its symbolic of their desire to assert their will over the universe.

    at least in the old canon... (you can read about this in The Book of Sith)
     
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    I believe Lucas has said that lightsaber blades are heavy, or at least hard to handle because of the tremendous energy generated, which is why he wanted them to be held with two hands originally. I don't know if there are canon sources that contradict or confirm this.
     
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    I would like to see someone pick up a lightsaber and have it backfire completely cause they don't have the ability to use it and get killed. Then it would set a standard for what it takes to use it and up the force mystic to where it ought to be. Even kid Anakin doesn't believe you can take a lightsaber from a Jedi.
     
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