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Skellig Island

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Klai Kenobi, Sep 28, 2016.

  1. nightangel

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    I was on Skellig Michael 2 days before filming and it made the impression on me like a place from a different planet, so everything is fine for me. :)
     
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    I agree with the OP. It was too earthy. A couple of suns/moons or even a slightly more extreme colour grade would've helped.
    When you look at Tatooine or Hoth these are sand and snow deserts that are void of other details other than the Star Warsy sets that are constructed.
    You believe they could on another planet far far away. Jakku worked in the same way.
    But Ahch-To did just feel like an island off of Ireland!
    Maybe there was no avoiding that due to the fact this was an ancient site that was bound to feel untouched by technology and thus slightly medieval.
    But yeah, bung another sun or moon in the sky and we're back in a galaxy far far away...
     
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    i can sorta see what the OP is referring to.

    in my opinion Skellig Michael is so stunningly beautiful as it is... i would have filmed it exactly as it is as well. Sure they could have jazzed it up in post production to make it look alien, but it would not have been as beautiful in my opinion.

    I'm sure that in some galaxy far far away there is a place just like skellig michael.
     
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    Looks more like gorilla than a walking carpet. Brad the gorilla would be a close enough match.
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    Ahhhh... I feel like everyone is missing the point here. haha I'm aware that we live on EARTH and everything is filmed on EARTH..AND I'm definitely not upset they chose to film on Skellig island. The place is very bizarre and beautiful and fits SW a ton. I'm simply saying they should have altered it a bit instead of making it appear as it is to us. Anything not of this Earth would do. 2 moons, cute little space rodents, color filter.. Any little alteration would take me off of EARTH.

    Tatooine = Tunísia - Had 2 suns, Moisture farms, aliens, etc.
    Hoth = Norway - Tauntauns, Rebel base, Wampas, etc.
    Endor = California, Ewoks
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    This is a valid point.. I guess I'm complaining because none of the planets in Ep7 were very interesting or detailed.. Maz's bar was the only thing that felt fleshed out and not underwhelming.
     
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    We saw Ach-To for only 2 minutes, in this short period of time we witness a small part of this planet. But there is much more to explore in EPVIII for sure. And don't worry, the location will probably be altered in that movie (caves, animals etc.). So you should wait for the next instalment.
    Personally I'm glad they showed us an unaltered version of this beautiful island.
     
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    Glad you enjoyed it, truly. My dissatisfaction definitely stems from the lack of fleshed out worlds and originality within the entire episode. I like the worn down look of the originals.. Just wasn't very detailed with swu stuff, species, etc.
     
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    They had 120 creatures build in detail, pretty much all planets have multiple suns and moons one even an asteroid belt. We haven't even seen the sky on one planet, but even if he had nothing, no need to make every frame "dense" with "so much things going on", that already backfired. It could be that we get that one planet that has one sun and maybe a moon and that's it, I don't know could be something new.
     
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    Never said every frame and don't think so either.. I like a good balance and TFA did not have that at all along with very little originality.
     
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    I got an off topic for my post? We are talking about Earth somehow being part of the SW universe? Am I wrong?
     
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    Some of the built characters on TFA were cool I'll definitely give em that. Rathtars and the whole freighter scene was an abomination. lol Brith flying around would have been PERFECT for Skellig aka Ach -to!
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    Brith flying around would have been PERFECT for Skellig aka Ach -to!
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    I completely agree with you. The Prequels fell victim to a time period when most big budget films were over using CGI that is now a bit outdated, but what the Prequels did right was fleshing out a SW Universe.. Also, the score cannot be rivaled by any.
     
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    As far as them fleshing out Ach-To, pictures are already circulating of possible on set creatures being added to the landscape to give a more other world feel. I can certainly understand the OP's concern but as far Ach-To goes like another poster said we only saw the planet for a few minutes. I think for that scene and for it's tone adding in some creatures might not have done the scene any help.
     
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    I totally understand what you mean about tone. They wanted us to feel like Luke is completely isolated.. He just felt isolated on Skellig and not on Ach-to..
    I completely agree with the tone. I know they were trying to make us feel that Luke was completely isolated from everything which is gravy..I'm not saying add any distracting things like Gungans lol I think Brith would have given it the right amount of majestic ambiance without too much distraction.. Ahh.. Maybe JJ will pull a Lucas and add those in when he fixes Chewy walking by Leia at the end. lol!
     
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    Oh wow lol, JJ would never do that to us... would he? Yeah Brith would have been an easy add. I'll have to re-watch that scene and look for local fishing boats that made it passed post preduction lol. ;););)
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    Just a quick update on this subject... Even though i'm at work, I always keep all the star wars movies on hand and reviewed the finale Ach-To scene. There are flying animals in most of these shots but they fly fast and are somewhat hard to noticed if you're focusing on the actors and the gorgeous island itself. The birds are moving so fast that it's hard to see any massive detail on them. It's very well possible they thought for just this scene it was just the perfect amount of wildlife.

    If anyone has the time we should find the most detailed freeze frame of one and see if there was any post production work on them. I'd love to see if they actually thought of that. If I don't see anything by the time I get home, i'll try and do it myself! Thank you to OP for bringing this up though, I love looking at the lil details!
     
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    As per my earlier post, I said I would look at the scenes of the birds to see if they did any post production work on them.
    Here are my findings:

    1. From looking and the birds of Ach-To frame by frame, I can see no post production editing.
    2. There are countless shots that have the birds in frame.
    3. When watching the movie you also can hear them squak'n.
    4. The way the birds are captured on film, makes them seem stretched and really hard to see what kind of bird it really is.

    I took some captures and the birds and i'll post them. The one thing you can't really tell in the photos is that there's a large amount of birds in
    a few of the shots. So from the looks of it they didn't do anything to the birds to make them appear more from a galaxy far far away. I think for these series of shots, the level of foreground life was perfect and suited the scene.

    (green)(green)(green)(green)(green)(green)(green)(green)(green)(green)(green)
    bird2.jpg bird3.jpg bird4.jpg bird5.jpg bird6.jpg bird7.jpg bird8.jpg bird9.jpg birds1.jpg
     
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    No chance, they had a ban mile around the island during filming. ;)
     
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    I was kinda joking about the whole car that was caught on film during the shooting of the first LOTR movie and made it to the big screen by mistake lol. I could just imagine seeing a fishing crawler off in the distance as Luke was gazing at Rey lol!
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    Oh!!! I forgot to upload this screen cap of the on set creature being setup for shooting on the episode 8 Skellig shoots. Not sure if this thing will even make it into the finale cut but they are taking steps to flesh out the environment.
     

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    Wow thanks for sharing! Looks like Luke maybe has a Jar Jar like friend/servant. hahaha Likely not half as annoying. I'm just surprised nobody thought of something alien like flying in the sky like Brith..especially on an ocean world like Skelli.. I mean Och-to. :) Then again JJ was so god damn worried to do anything he thought could be related to the Prequels 'over use' of CGI. Even though that wasn't the issue with those films in IMO. It was 30% bad script writing and the rest Jar Jar. :)
     
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