Solo "bombs", so what happens next?

Absolutely but it's also it's biggest weakness when it can't decide which one dictates which feature.
The issue I have with the technology concerns of Star Wars, isn't how or why they work...it's that the evolution and devolution don't follow the same rules trilogy to trilogy. It's okay to play it fast and loose with these things but it has to stay somewhat consistent with those. I think the OT and ST feel much more in the same world than the PT does.

 

I would agree with that. I know the original plan apparently was that Lucas made the prequels shinier to make it feel more like an enlightened age to the OT's dark age.

But it just didn't seem to quite work. Maybe if the Prequels looked liked the OT but shinier it would've been more effective, but for the most part it just seems like different technology entirely. As in, from a different universe or series.

It definitely works sometimes- the Clone Wars Y-Wings, for instance, translate pretty well to the ships we eventually see the Alliance flying. I really like that, and I wish we had more of it.

But I'd agree- the issue of technology seems to really not gel between the prequels and the rest of the series.

On a somewhat related note- how do we feel about tech in KOTOR? Despite its obvious prequel inspiration, I think it fits in with the OT (time differences aside) better than the prequels do.

 

Hear me out, KOTOR should have had PT era tech and the PT should have had KOTOR tech.
If you flip those it creates such a large gap in time that you could see a cataclysmic type war that just sets everyone back resulting in OT era tech.

Then you would more realistically be able to depict the collapse of an enlightened age in a world like Star Wars.

 

I like that idea a lot, actually.

It would show visually, through the tech, the degredation of the Jedi Order as it weakens and grows more corrupt over time. By linking what may be the biggest fantasy element (the Jedi) to the tech of the time, you get a more linear, more believable, and more thematic representation of the tech in Star Wars.

 

It would definitely add another level to the story telling.
And the way you state it, would be a great way of getting across the point Lucas wanted to in the PT

 

Hi everyone, long time no post!

Anyway, I agree with you here based on a rather different observation. It has always bugged me that when Anakin got his hand amputated, he had a metal, mechanical-looking prosthesis. Yet, his son got a very realistic, electronic hand that could pass for the real deal- an elegant device in a less-civilized age. That's never made sense to me. The tech required would have required a large, wealthy medical/industrial industry- which should not exist in the dark times.

Luke should have gotten a hook.

 

Welcome back!

Yeah, that's an interesting thing, too. It's definitely not a regression across the board.

 

Well the thing with Kotor or Swtor, etc, the tech doesnt make sense, it looks more advanced than the entire OT, for being 1000 years or more prior the movies, or looks similar (just see the swtor cinematics)

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And the thing with ron howard he , or the person in charge of his twitter, is just retweeting tweets that talk good things of the movie, but i dont think that he, or the person in charge of his twitter read the entire tweet to see that jab for Rian, because if he did that it would be very unprofessional on his part

 

I bet I have a way better explanation of the 2nd weekend drop than you do for the minimal 3rd weekend one. Or the third week overall, doesn't fit the narrative.

We also have a contemporary example of a big opening but heavily divisive flick in Batman vs Superman which struggled mightily to double that first weekend.

I'm also not exactly sure of the formula that calls for a 1.8 global take based on a 220 domestic opening weekend. There certainly cannot be too many data points to justify that expectation because the circumstances to draw comparisons with are pretty minimal.

I suspect you have something that may as well be called "The Force Awakens Calculus" or something. If so that plugs in a set of expectations so simple as to be unreasonable by default. Reaction rather than thought.

I not going to deal with the rabid dog with a bone digging into the Rotten Tomatoes audience rating as some source of truth because at this point it strongly indicates agenda or even crusade. It's a critic aggregator, the Audience rating has been and should remain...a nothing burger, it has clearly and lamely been an exploit to "freep" (Last Jedi and Solo) and "unfreep" (Batman vs Superman and Justice League) in pitiful learned behavior probably cross pollinating by right wing types used to brigading online polls for years.

Why? The demand for this one to be treated as an above all source of truth. The constant drone of political buzzwords. The crazy storm of half and one star reviews also spamming the same lame tunes we don't even hear with such frequency in US red states.

We've seen the tactics for years and almost nothing behaves both like the movie and the picture you want to paint, the circle cannot he squared. There is a narrative but it doesn't hold up up without ignoring a lot of information especially the marketing unlike anything anything I can think of trying to make blockbuster money for Solo.

I really believe some are overweighting substantially for their own reactions to the respective films and are prone to strongly get with any tale that fits the story they want to believe.

The truth is usually somewhere in the middle but that doesn't mean it is right in the middle.

 

Then he would have had to have changed his name to Luke Skywalkarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh

 

OK I am wading in here....

I despise the term "bombed" because many make the jump from "bombed" to "the movie must have sucked". Yes, OK, it bombed at the box office. I'm not a SW business expert nor an expert on box office dynamics. However, SOLO is REALLY special to me, one of my favorite of ALL the SW movies PT/OT/ST

The question from the OP was "What's next?".....

That's easy, for me:

1. Get the score for SOLO when it comes out
2. Get the movie on 4K
3. Get the novelization
4. Enjoy my time on the Cantina awaiting Episode IX
5. Take the family to "Galaxy's Edge" at DW next year
6. Enjoy every single piece of SW I can get my hands on....

 

Oh, I got a long chuckle out of that!

 

I think it all started with threads like, For people who HATED the film... anywho, its about time someone put their foot down... Thanks @Trevor

 

Thanks. The only negative feeling I have towards the folks who loved it is jealousy. I wish I loved it, I really do but it wasn’t for me.

I’m not jumping ship on the franchise though and I’m banking JJ rewards me in EPIX.

I’m just just wondering if JJ is going to give TLJ as big an FU as RJ did to TFA ... like “what? You thought Luke died!? Oh no he just teleported to Dagobah and has been kicking ass ever since!”

 

My first move was to see "SOLO" again . . . which I did. And I enjoyed it even more. And now I wait for the DVD release.

 

Nice... funny how you do this for Disney movies, but, your PT section is full of garbage. I agree that constant bashing is ridiculous, but, you don't recognize it til now? Because "you're" tired of seeing it...