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They are many different family types.

Adopted childrens are part of the family. In most cases they receive last name of that family. Same genes do not make all of us family. Affection and love makes as family.

Family in broad sense of that word is not the same as family specifically named ( same last name ). My grandfather from my mother side is not part of my named family ( same last name ) but it is part of my family in emotional sence and genetic.

The family is not equel as ''put last name'' family.

You are in other hand obsessed only by genetics. And you give specific last name to everyone who had even the smallest parts of the genes of that person.

When I said that Leia childrens are not Skywalker if they do not carry that name, I do not mean that they are not family with Leia, Luke, Padme and Anakin.
They are family, but are just not Skywalker family ( people with same last name ).

Skywalker is last name.

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This first part is what I consider wrong. Descendants of Anakin are not all Skywalkers.
But they are his family ( at least his childrens and grandchildrens, maybe even grandgrandchildrens ).

Calling all of them Skywalkers just because they are his descendants is what i consider wrong.

 

Quite the contrary. I am not giving a last name to anyone, because that is the whole point: The last name is a meaningless label that has next to nothing to do with who is family. Meanwhile, you are obsessed with using these terms interchangeably to fit whatever your current whim is. Your conflation and confusion of these terms is evidenced by your own loosey-goosey references to "genetic" family, "emotional" family, "affection and love" family...

Well, you sort of got it right at the end. They are in the family and "Skywalker" is just a name.

And this is your now evolved position on the issue. You originally said they were not his family. You have now acknowledged that fact. So with that, I am happy that you have at least come to that realization and I feel better that this was not completely in vain.

 

I said they are not Skywalker family.

Skywalker family is not the same as The family ( emotional and genetic relations )

Skywalker is a legacy name. My point is, Skywalker family will extinct without new Skywalkers ( people named Skywalker ). You can call that last name genetic.
Skywalker as a name also has it own importance for this saga.

 

And with that, you have completely undone all progress I thought we made.

The Skywalker "family" will not go extinct without people named Skywalker. The Skywalker "surname" might, but not the family.

I give up.

 

Dude are you blind? You said that if Luke had children it had to be a boy, because of the whole last name issue which obviously doesnt make sense! I just showed you that the inheritance thing is not a RULE, it cant be BENT and it's done often in the real world!
I never said that the Skywalker name isnt important (thats the point you failed to understand) because it obviously is! I just said that the name will linger on even through female characters. Understand?

 

I think I have the whole plot of Episode VII and the ST figured out now. Snoke thinks that he has converted the true heir to the "Skywalker" family because he has turned Kylo "Ren" Solo, who he thinks he is actually Kylo "Ren" Skywalker. His whole plan backfires though, because he is too hung up on the Skywalker surname to recognize that Kylo Ren is just as connected to Anakin Skywalker, the martyred "chosen one" of the Empire, as is Rey Skywalker, the daughter of Luke Skywalker. At the end of Episode IX, he says to Rey, "But you can't be the true heir to the Skywalker family, Leia is an Organa or Solo, and you can't continue on the name, you are just a girl." Then she lops his head off with her lightsaber and says, "Gee, you are dumb." Roll credits.

 

I'm just glad surnames are passed from the male parent. Imagine this debate if it was the female. You know, if it was Padme Amidala..I mean, Padme Naberrie..or was it Amidala..one was more a title, right? So was she Amidala or..I'm just glad we're talking about Skywalkers, that's all I'm saying....

 

@D-green and @Dark Toilet can you guys just agree to disagree. I know both of you are passionate about your opinions but the last 2-3 pages is pretty much the same argument repeated over and over again. The ST will be about the Skywalker family. It doesn't matter how we may define and interpret the word family but how JJ and Kasden interpreted it when writing the script or how Lucasfilm interprets it when they say it is a saga of the Skywalker family

 

Why are people so hung up on the Sky walker name having to continue on?

Anakin's father was the force. His mother was Shmi Skywalker who then became Cliegg Lar's husband. For all we know Skywalker could be a GOT type name to all bastards on Tatooine since Shmi herself does not reveal her parents.

If Rey is the next of the Skywalker/Solo/Organa line, her children will not have the Skywalker Suriname either, even if Luke is her father. Anakin and Padme's future decedents could be Dameron's or Calrissians or even little Snokes. Who bloody cares! A name does not make family, the shared blood ties between kin is what makes a family.

I have two daughters and am the last Male in my line. My last name may very well be gone...but my daughters are going to continue my line in whatever name my grandkids have, my line will continue.

People should just be happy enough that the story continues the generational theme...get off the skywalker name.

 

It's possible Rey's children can inherit her name, nothing in SW says woman can't pass down their names. Another thing if Rey ends up with Finn who seems to have no name and doesn't know who he is, it's possible their children will take her name.

 

That's why the EU had Solo's who carry on the bloodline and a Skywalker who carries the name too. Best of both worlds, why cant we have that

 

We may. There is a possibility that Kylo is a Solo and Rey is a Skywalker. Will just have to wait to see and it may not be until we are further along into the ST until we know for sure.

 

I want to kiss you seriously, this would be a dream come true, as I was saying this since more than a year ago that this is the most logical step to me with most people against this theory....let´s hope your source is right!!!!! (Let Kylo to daddy Han, to be the reason of Han-Leia no happily ever after)

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I want to kiss you seriously, this would be a dream come true, as I was saying this since more than a year ago that this is the most logical step to me with most people against this theory....let´s hope your source is right!!!!! (Let Kylo to daddy Han, to be the reason of Han-Leia no happily ever after)

 

I will believe it when I see it. Han having a daughter is way more fun to write than Luke having a daughter.

 

yes we have....General ORGANA.....

 

You´re right. The question Who is Luke Skywalker fits perfectly to Rey being his daughter - that way we can explore his past, his soul, and rediscover the farm boy and who he really is at the end....

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You´re right. The question Who is Luke Skywalker fits perfectly to Rey being his daughter - that way we can explore his past, his soul, and rediscover the farm boy and who he really is at the end....

 

Rey Skywalker, daughter of Luke is looking increasingly likely to me, despite Daisy's "solitary" comment. If the Knights of Ren had decimated Luke's Jedi academy/temple 20 years previously he and the infant Rey the sole survivors, Luke may have hidden her on Jakku knowing it was him they were after.

Adam Driver has such a distinctive face that I'm not too sure they could get away with Kylo being related to any of the big three.